The CBE Scroll

Blog voices from Christians for Biblical Equality

Can I Get a Refill, Please?

Filed under: Family,Gender Equality,Personal Story — Mindy at 10:59 pm on Sunday, April 30, 2006

My husband lovingly calls me a “glass half empty” person. “Sometimes it’s even three-quarters empty,” he told me the other day. (It must have been a particularly rough day—sorry, honey!)

It’s true. I crave order and balance, and a world corrupted by sin doesn’t offer much of either. My reactions to gender issues are often of the strong negative quality. I get angry, frustrated, depressed by the way people, including Christians, willingly oppress one another.

The fact is, I’ve seen some things that would disturb the most devoted optimist. I was going to list some of them here, but based on your comments on Brandon’s recent post, you don’t need me to convince you that the church can be a downer!

When I’m staring at the bottom of the glass, my husband reminds me that the tap is nearby, ready to provide a refill. There are good things happening out there, too, that should encourage me.

For example, my conservative congregation has just opened up ushering and public Bible reading to women. Granted, they have a long way to go, but this is a major move for a church in our denomination.

This fall, a complementarian theologian declared at a public meeting that egalitarians are winning the gender debate. Of course, his purpose in making that point was to spur his like-minded colleagues to more aggressive strategies, but still, it’s good to know that the message of biblical equality is being heard loud and clear.

And (ok, this starts off as a negative, but keep reading) last year a friend was distraught because her seminary advisor had just told her there wasn’t much point in her going on to a Ph.D.—despite her clear academic gifts—because a seminary doctorate was only useful for teaching theology, and of course, it would be a sin for her to teach men preparing for the ministry. Get to the good part, you say? That woman is now completing a doctorate in Church and State at a major university and presented a paper at this year’s Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting.

So, yeah, my glass-half-empty orientation is not completely without cause. But we must encourage each other in the victories, because with God’s gifting and leading, we are making a difference. By our teaching of Scripture and our application of it to our relationships with one another, we are declaring a message for which the whole world thirsts: the hope of the gospel of Christ fills the emptiest of souls to overflowing.

Ms. Magazine

Filed under: Feminism,Gender Equality,Publications — Guest at 6:14 am on Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Apparently we been noticed by Ms. Magazine, even if only for marketing purposes. I received the following email.

The new issue of Ms. is on newsstands today (April 24), full of its usual galvanizing coverage of the feminist movement. We thought some of the stories might make for interesting posts on The Scroll or Christian Egalitarians, particularly Ani’s recent work to revitalize Buffalo, Geena Davis’ campaign to get female characters into G-rated movies, and our cover story–on the women garment workers who are the real victims of the Jack Abramoff scandal. In addition, gender and language expert Deborah Tannen explained to Ms. why her new New York Times bestseller, “You’re Wearing That? Understanding Mothers and Daughters in Conversation,” is a feminist book. [from] Jessica

Anyone read this mag regularly?

What the Lord Said to a Mega-Church Pastor

Filed under: Gender Equality,Local Church — ronsmith at 7:37 pm on Sunday, April 23, 2006

Pastor Cho Yonggi oversees the largest congregation in church history (about 3/4 of a million). Years ago as he was looking for new leaders to oversee his house fellowships, the Lord confronted him with six questions.

1. From whom was I born? The answer: a woman.
2. On whose lap was I nurtured? The answer: a woman.
3. Who followed me throughout my ministry and helped to meet my needs? The answer: women.
4. Who stayed until the last minutes of my crucifixion? The answer: women.
5. Who came to anoint my body in the tomb? The answer: women.
6. Who were the first witnesses to my resurrection? The answer: Mary Magdalene, a woman.

These were the reasons Cho gave for how God showed him that women should also be allowed to lead the contemporary church. Very counter culturally, Cho allowed that to happen in his church in Korea and we see the results — the largest church in history.

[Source: The Century of the Holy Spirit by Vinson Synan, Nelson Publishers, p. 255.]

When being human becomes a nuisance

Filed under: Gender Equality,Personal Story — Brandon at 7:34 am on Friday, April 21, 2006

“I would have enjoyed seminary so much more if it wasn’t for the women.”

So were the words of a minister I was introduced to one day several years ago. Mindy and I were together, and both of us were introduced, but he looked right past her and ignored her “hello.” She was invisible. He heard I was a Ph.D. student at a reformed seminary and wanted to know if I was enjoying it.

“It’s been challenging,” I told him. “But I’m learning from the best and I’m enjoying it. Where did you go to seminary?”

He told me, then added those words that have stayed with me for years.

Of course my curiosity got the best of me. “What was it about the women that ruined seminary for you?”

“The questions,” he replied curtly. “They interrupted the class with their questions.”

As the conversation continued, I learned that he saw seminary training as only for men. According to him, while it was acceptable for the men to ask questions—or even challenge the professor (perhaps even a right of passage)—it was a nuisance when women did it. They were to learn at home from their husbands, to ask them the questions.

At that time, I wanted to give him as much room as possible. I didn’t know the man all that well and wondered if he might just need some direction. Added to this was the fact that some people I knew attended his church. I needed to figure out the best approach to helping someone like him along.

Unfortunately, I never got to do this. Within little time I discovered that his problem went beyond a misunderstanding of gender roles. He really wanted his women silent. Women in his church were to receive communion only from their husbands and only with their husband’s permission. He started a blog seeking out every “feminist heresy,” which he seemed to see as the root of all evil. Women were infantilized, better “seen and not heard.”

He was not alone.

During a seminary class one day, a female student, one of the few at this seminary at that time, asked a challenging question. The professor answered and class moved on. A few male students behind me started talking when she exited the room after class.

“Why do you think she’s here?” asked the one.

“I don’t know,” answered the other.

I stood to pack up my things, watching and listening. There was a look of bewilderment on their faces. It was as if no one wanted to ask it, but they all thought it: “What would she do with a seminary degree? It’s not like she can be a minister.” Someone might as well have dressed up a monkey in a suit and sent it off to seminary.

There was a moment of silence.

“Maybe she’s trying to find herself,” said another student.

Ah, yes. Of course. They all nodded in agreement. She couldn’t possibly be there for the same reasons they were! If she was, then she was a feminist. Was she secretly working for the other side? There was a little Monty Python reasoning going on: if she weighs as much as a duck, then she’s made of wood, and therefore she’s a witch!

Or maybe, like Dorothy Sayers once wrote, there is nothing in her shape that keeps her from wanting to study Aristotle. Maybe, God made human beings, male and female, to learn, grow, and improve themselves and the rest of humanity. Maybe he gives each of them a desire to pursue what they do best. Even more importantly, maybe God made her to learn about him and maybe she is human after all.

I like to imagine that these students went home that day and took a hard look at their wives or daughters or sisters, and asked themselves the hard questions. That’s just the optimist in me. But I know that there are plenty of men, like the patriarchal minister, that will spend the rest of their lives fighting women as seductresses eager to take a man down.

Why should any one be so intimidated by the other gender? Why is their “manliness” threatened by the humanity of women? Why do human beings, whether against another gender or race, feel better when they force silence and submission on another person?

The easy answer is sin. But when it comes to the complicated one—that is, why sin is manifested in this way—why do certain persons act in this way while others do not? I’m not sure why.

A Thought about perseverance in the ministry

Filed under: Gender Equality — ronsmith at 8:21 am on Wednesday, April 19, 2006

Amy Carmichael, fifty-plus years in India, a challenging thought indeed.

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