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Changing the Mindset

Filed under: Complementarianism,Gender Equality,Marriage,Men — Liz at 9:25 pm on Saturday, May 27, 2006

Recently there was a blog post regarding preferential treatment given to men, even by those who espouse egalitarian beliefs. How can this happen ?

It is very evident that the cultural mindset over such a long time is deeper than many first imagined and so it is no wonder than it keeps resurfacing in the most unlikely places. It occurs to me that something that has taken hundreds of years to become entrenched will not go away just by careful exegesis and teaching. Attitudes will change in the same way they developed – very slowly and with repeated statements and demonstrated truth. We need to find ways of “speaking the truth in love” to those who have differing beliefs about gender issues and use opportunities as they occur to encourage a better way to speak and act in company with women and men.

For myself, I know that I often don’t take issue with things which are said for two reasons. Either it seems as though I am defending myself or I don’t want to spoil the great fellowship we have with friends by pointing out something they’ve said which perpetuates the sterotypes. Perhaps we need to move away from personal hurt and see it as a slight on the very character of God and then we may feel more freedom to confront people who unwittingly make distinction between women and men followers of Jesus. However we do it, it will probably be a long process which will bear fruit later. One example is a recent opportunity I have had to “Australianise” a series of parenting books which have been written from a complementarian perspective. While doing this I was able to change words such as “man’s nature” to “human nature” and sometimes include the word “parents” instead of the continual reference to “mum (read mom)” as though mothers are always the primary care-givers. I won’t be around to see what difference this will make to the thousands who read this material, but hopefully it will permeate their thinking and have a lasting result. Some of us will have to be content with “picking out the stones” to prepare the ground for the good seed of biblical truth to take root.

Called to India

Filed under: CBE,Gender Equality — Guest at 2:49 pm on Tuesday, May 23, 2006

If you have surfed the CBE website, you may have come across information about the upcoming symposium in Bangalore. The symposium will address gender issues in the church, specifically how men and women are equally dependent on one other in the home, workplace, and church. This event is co-sponsored by CBE, Pilgrim Partners, South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies, and the Union of Evangelical Students of India, and will be held at the Ecumenical Christian Centre from February 15-18, 2007. It will feature speakers from seven different countries including Richard Howell, the General Secretary of the Evangelical Fellowship of India, and David and Robyn Claydon, long-time missionaries and former leaders of Lausanne.

It’s easy to look at a conference like this and think, “Wow! What a great thing. It’s great to see biblical equality being promoted in India.” However, this symposium is not exclusively about or for the church in Southeast Asia; it’s about the global church crossing cultural, geographical, and denominational divides in order to come together to discuss and dialogue about important issues related to gender and equality. It is so important for western Christians to attend this conference as it is a unique opportunity to support and learn from egalitarian Christians around the world. I encourage you to prayerfully consider if this is an opportunity to which you personally are being called. Please direct your questions to me, or visit the India symposium website. Space is limited, so register today.

-Julia
Conference Coordinator

An observation over dinner

Filed under: Complementarianism,Gender Equality,Personal Story — ronsmith at 4:09 pm on Saturday, May 13, 2006

My wife and I spent a year of missionary service in the gorgeous southeast asian city of Singapore in 1990. While there, we ate dinner one night with a senior missions couple who have been widely used and are vocal egalitarians. They peppered me repeatedly with Bible questions and vitually ignored the presence of my wife at the table. The amusing thing in all of this is that she has an M.Div. from Gordon-Conwell, has contributed to more than one study Bible published by major publishing houses, and has taught the whole content of Scripture for thirty years. After another conversation with an outspoken egalitarian president of a leading seminary where the same phenomenon occurred, both of us looked to each other and asked ourselves why does this happen? The only answer we can come up with is that subconsciously, cultural prejudice leaves long lingering attitudes and behaviors, even among people who would declare themselves convinced egalitarians.

Gendered Bible Book Stores

Filed under: Complementarianism,Family,Men,Publications — Guest at 3:03 pm on Friday, May 12, 2006

I’m wondering if many of you are uncomfortable in Bible book stores. It seems like an awful lot of them are highly gendered. Books aimed at women and girls (guess which ones); books aimed at men and boys (“Bible stories of strength and courage!”). Non-book items, more than half the inventory, like pseudo-Victorian home knick-knacks (decorative pastel figurines like Precious Moments), dried flower wreaths and teddy bears give a sweet, non-cognitive feeling to the place.

Julie Ingersoll makes similar observations in a chapter of Evangelical Christian Women; War Stories in the Gender Battles called, “The Power of Subtle Arrangements and Little Things,” where she says, “But what is most interesting is that the distinct demarcation between genders is carried through from the toys to the items intended for adults. While there is an element of genderedness to gifts and books in the large culture, it is not nearly so prominent as it is in the Christian bookstores.” Christian writers wanting to break through the stereotypes, as we’ve seen in a recent post, have their work cut out for them. A look in most any Bible book store will be most sobering.

The American Evangelical Reading Market

Filed under: Gender Equality — Guest at 1:33 pm on Tuesday, May 9, 2006

Ever since I was a child, I have loved writing. I love crafting good stories and entertaining people with them. Recently, it occurred to me that it might make a fascinating book if I wrote about my experiences as an American living in Britain. It’s certainly been fascinating to compare the two cultures firsthand! I decided to make it a fictional book so that I could protect people’s privacy.

Since I have never published a story before, I thought it would be wise to do some research about the Christian writing industry . I found a website run by an editor in a Christian publishing house, one which publishes for the mainstream evangelical audience and which comprises the bulk of readers and buyers of Christian fiction. This website also features a discussion board, but in talking to the other writers on that board, I have, to my dismay, discovered that the idea for my book may not be feasible. You see, there is one experience, which has been a large part of my life here in England: studying to become a Local Preacher.

The program I’m in is sponsored by the Methodist Church in Britain. In it, men and women undergo a study course lasting several months and at the end of it are certified as lay pastors. They are then free to have churches invite them to preach. The LP program is an integral part of Methodism in Britain; almost every Sunday, a church will have an LP as the minister at one of their services. I have heard that there are a few grumblers who don’t like women preaching here, but I have never heard them. By far, the vast majority of people simply accepts it as no big deal, and would question why you would not want to have women in leadership. (At a Bible study I participated in last year, I mentioned how divisive this issue is in America. At first my fellow participants merely looked incredulous; then they laughed. The notion of not allowing women to use their spiritual gifts however the Lord guides them was simply incomprehensible to them.)

The writers on this discussion board told me that this issue was simply too controversial. Since the majority of people who read books put out by Christian publishers tend to be evangelical and complementarian, a publisher such as the one who sponsored this site would never dare publish my book for fear of offending their audience. Now, bear in mind that the LP program has been only one part of my life. I am also a devoted wife, co-worker, churchgoer, etc. I have had all sorts of adventures interacting with the British culture. And yet, all this would count for nothing, because I disagree with one segment of the American population on a theological issue. Indeed, one writer posted, “Well, I would never attend a church with a woman pastor. However, I like to read murder mysteries even though I don’t approve of murder, so I guess I would read your book.” While being a woman in church leadership doesn’t quite rise to the level of murder (just what was this woman was saying?), there’s still something vaguely sinful about it in some people’s minds. Since one form of sin makes for great novels, then maybe another one will, too!

I suppose you can tell that my heart is broken. I knew this issue had caused much division in the American church, but the thought that people would not be willing to read a book with which they might disagree is just beyond words for me. Has it come to this? Is this the only kind of Christian writing that evangelicals will accept? A story where, like The Truman Show, everyone lives in a smiling utopia and where every thought and every word must conform to a certain viewpoint? One where dissent is not even allowed or discussed? If so, then, even though it brings me a great deal of pain, I am afraid that, like Jim Carey’s hero, I will have to sail away from my comfortable Christian world when it comes time to publish my novel. On that day, reluctantly, I will begin looking for a secular agent and publisher.

I think it’s interesting that on that discussion board, somebody brought up Christian novels that were published in the secular world, and how they tend to do phenomenally well. Certainly they have done much better than any novel published by a Christian publisher. (For instance, Gilead won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction last year.) Why? The conclusion reached was the obvious one: those novels deal with real people, ones who wrestle with God and have flaws, but who are still seeking grace. In other words, people who are far from perfect Christians. This is what breaks my heart most of all, that these characters have found more acceptance in the community of non-believers. I suspect that mine will probably do the same. But then again, Jesus found more acceptance among the sinners, didn’t He? That thought is the only thing that brings me a measure of comfort.

– Lori

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