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	<title>Comments on: Joy Fenner Elected President of BGCT</title>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-73625</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a great day to be a Texas baptist as far as I'm concerned. The prejudice against ordaining women has been as strong in Texas baptist churches as anywhere else, but we do tend to be an independent bunch when it comes to our state convention. We don't compromise on the fundamentals of our faith, but we don't want to walk in lock-step with the Southern Baptist Convention either. Cooperation, yes. Lock-step, no. I say &lt;em&gt;amen&lt;/em&gt; to David Lowrie and his great attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a great day to be a Texas baptist as far as I&#8217;m concerned. The prejudice against ordaining women has been as strong in Texas baptist churches as anywhere else, but we do tend to be an independent bunch when it comes to our state convention. We don&#8217;t compromise on the fundamentals of our faith, but we don&#8217;t want to walk in lock-step with the Southern Baptist Convention either. Cooperation, yes. Lock-step, no. I say <em>amen</em> to David Lowrie and his great attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: jlp</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-73012</link>
		<dc:creator>jlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bgct.org/texasbaptists/Page.aspx?&#038;pid=4595&#038;srcid=1832" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is some more news on Joy Fenner's election.

Her opponent in the election, David Lowrie, says he is looking forward to working with her. Wow, what a great attitude to have towards someone who just beat you in an election. I would hope that I would have that attitude if ever I were in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bgct.org/texasbaptists/Page.aspx?&#038;pid=4595&#038;srcid=1832" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is some more news on Joy Fenner&#8217;s election.</p>
<p>Her opponent in the election, David Lowrie, says he is looking forward to working with her. Wow, what a great attitude to have towards someone who just beat you in an election. I would hope that I would have that attitude if ever I were in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: jlp</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72990</link>
		<dc:creator>jlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/DN-baptists_30met.ART0.State.Edition1.41fc7f8.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is an article on the election.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/DN-baptists_30met.ART0.State.Edition1.41fc7f8.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is an article on the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ann</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72816</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing! We need to keep her in our prayers, as I am sure with such a close election as well as with the SBC probably being unhappy with this election (the SBC and BGCT have been at odds since the 2000 revision of the Baptist Faith and Message), she will encounter a lot of flak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing! We need to keep her in our prayers, as I am sure with such a close election as well as with the SBC probably being unhappy with this election (the SBC and BGCT have been at odds since the 2000 revision of the Baptist Faith and Message), she will encounter a lot of flak.</p>
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		<title>By: LMcC</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72756</link>
		<dc:creator>LMcC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y'all are making me so proud of my Texan hubby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all are making me so proud of my Texan hubby!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLP, I looked for that information and couldn't find it quickly, and now have to be about other things. I'm hoping someone else knows or finds it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLP, I looked for that information and couldn&#8217;t find it quickly, and now have to be about other things. I&#8217;m hoping someone else knows or finds it.</p>
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		<title>By: jlp</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72640</link>
		<dc:creator>jlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will Joyce Fenner take over, and how long is her term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will Joyce Fenner take over, and how long is her term?</p>
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		<title>By: Lolly</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72625</link>
		<dc:creator>Lolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or at least a president-elect, at this point. As a non-Southern Baptist Christian in Texas, I’ve observed a lot of resistance to the official denominational party-line here in the state. Texans have never taken all that well to having much of anything dictated to them from outside the state. I see this election as evidence from the moderates in the BGCT that the denomination’s conservative voices do not speak for them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm a former SB here in Texas. Believe me, we really don't like the national leadership telling us how we're supposed to believe. Texas was a frontier state for much of its history, so we have a tradition of honoring strong women. The idea of women being subordinate is certainly preached in some churches, but it's unpopular with the population at large, Christian or otherwise.

This isn't the first time that Texas Baptists have had a run-in with the national leadership.  Somewhere on CBE's website it says that the Women's Missionary Union got in trouble for refusing to teach the doctrine of subordination, but instead promoting gift-based leadership. Good for them! As I e-mailed to a friend of mine, 'It makes me proud to be a Texan.'

A while back ago, Al Mohler (head of the national SBC) declared that it was a 'tragedy' when a mega-Baptist church in Atlanta elected a woman pastor. Well, as my British husband would say, 'I bet he's really got his knickers in a twist now.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Or at least a president-elect, at this point. As a non-Southern Baptist Christian in Texas, I’ve observed a lot of resistance to the official denominational party-line here in the state. Texans have never taken all that well to having much of anything dictated to them from outside the state. I see this election as evidence from the moderates in the BGCT that the denomination’s conservative voices do not speak for them.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m a former SB here in Texas. Believe me, we really don&#8217;t like the national leadership telling us how we&#8217;re supposed to believe. Texas was a frontier state for much of its history, so we have a tradition of honoring strong women. The idea of women being subordinate is certainly preached in some churches, but it&#8217;s unpopular with the population at large, Christian or otherwise.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time that Texas Baptists have had a run-in with the national leadership.  Somewhere on CBE&#8217;s website it says that the Women&#8217;s Missionary Union got in trouble for refusing to teach the doctrine of subordination, but instead promoting gift-based leadership. Good for them! As I e-mailed to a friend of mine, &#8216;It makes me proud to be a Texan.&#8217;</p>
<p>A while back ago, Al Mohler (head of the national SBC) declared that it was a &#8216;tragedy&#8217; when a mega-Baptist church in Atlanta elected a woman pastor. Well, as my British husband would say, &#8216;I bet he&#8217;s really got his knickers in a twist now.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: fjs</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/10/joy-fenner-elected-president-of-bgct/comment-page-1/#comment-72620</link>
		<dc:creator>fjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an encouragement to know that some churches are open and responsive to women's leadership. There are days when I feel heart-sick at the few available jobs in churches for women.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an encouragement to know that some churches are open and responsive to women&#8217;s leadership. There are days when I feel heart-sick at the few available jobs in churches for women.</p>
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