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God of Sarah, Rebekah, and Ruth

Filed under: Biblical History, Gender Equality, Local Church, Personal Story — Mindy at 9:51 am on Friday, February 15, 2008

I grew up in patriarchal churches. I got used to hearing Scripture readings and having to internally translate “man” to “humanity” or “people;” to seeing women behind the piano but not the pulpit or conducting the children’s choir but not the adult musicians; to being allowed to ask public questions in my high school Sunday school class but then denied the same opportunity later when I became an adult. So when, a few years ago, all my searching and questioning finally produced a permanent shift to egalitarianism, the smallest acts of justice in the church were great sources of encouragement to me.

At the time I was a member of a patriarchal but relatively supportive congregation, and when “liberal” forces within the congregation led to invitations to serve on the vision team, to usher, or to give a public testimony, these opportunities seemed vastly liberating compared to what I had previously known. My husband and I didn’t want to change churches over one issue - especially if our willing service could be an example of winsome egalitarianism - so we stuck around. But the completion of graduate school and the beginning of a nationwide job search recently opened the door for us to explore other denominations and particular congregations that would share our egalitarian commitment. We’re still in the job search process and haven’t settled permanently, but we’re currently attending a small Episcopal church that we appreciate for its lovely and historic liturgy, warm people, and obvious dedication to the outworking of the gospel through social justice.

The reason for this rather rambling biography is to help you understand the significance of what happened last Sunday. Longtime Episcopalians probably think nothing of it, being used to women represented as equals. But when, during the celebration of the Eucharist, the rector addressed his prayer to “God of our ancestors: God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; God of Sarah, Rebekah, and Ruth,” I was stunned. Never in my life had I heard our spiritual fathers and mothers held up together with equal significance at a public ceremony. There was no elaboration, no qualification of the statement as hinging on a “correct” understanding of manhood and womanhood derived elsewhere; just a prayer that acknowledged men and women recorded in the Bible as being among those God spoke through and to in millennia past.

Kneeling there in my pew, the congregation continuing to pray aloud around me, I repeated that phrase over and over, startled to find my eyes filling with tears. I am generally the last person to “get emotional” during worship. But I was overwhelmed with gratitude for a God who never discriminates, who loves his daughters as he loves his sons, who loves me as he loves his other children, and loves me so much that he would speak to me in such simple but profoundly moving and comforting words. That morning I received the bread and wine with a suddenly-deeper gratitude for the transforming grace of Christ.

On the one hand, this is a sad story about just how oppressive our wrong-headed attitudes are when all it takes is a simple acknowledgment of God’s work in both men and women to open the floodgates of the heart. And yet, on the other, it is a testimony to the amazing power of truth offered without hesitation and with humility, the solidarity of the people of God standing together on equal footing before the cross of Christ. I would have missed the sweetness of that moment of communion had I not experienced the previous oppression, and therefore I am grateful to God for both.

And so I am prompted to ask this question: have any of you, who like me converted to egalitarianism from a patriarchal background, ever had such an “a-ha!” moment - a time when the full significance of your equality before God hit you unexpectedly? I’d love to hear where you were and just what it was that took you by surprise. I’m certain your story will be an encouragement to others - so do tell!

22 Comments »

Comment by Sister Honey Bunch

February 15, 2008 @ 10:01 am

Very, very cool.

Comment by ShawnaRenee

February 15, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

When I come upon that phrase in the liturgy, I always say “The God of our ancestors Abraham and Sarah, Isaac and Rebekah, and Jacob, Rachel, and Leah.” But it is different to hear it said by another pastor or priest. I heard if for the first time in an Episcopal service too. Father Tim said, “The God of our fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the God of our mothers Sarah, Miriam, and Deborah.” It is very liberating and very freeing.

Comment by Whit

February 15, 2008 @ 8:02 pm

I was asked to speak last year at a meeting of the InterVarsity college group at UNC. There was a large crowd, over 100 students. The evening began with vibrant worship led by a team of men and women singing and playing instruments. They traded off leadership of the songs between team members in a fluid, easy and relaxed fashion that seemed quite natural and comfortable to them. In fact, I didn’t really notice it at first because everything seemed so normal. Then came the moment that hit me with the same kind of force that you experienced and brought unexpected tears to my eyes. We launched into a song called Prince of Peace that has two parts. Every other time I have sung this song, including when I (a female) was the worship leader myself, the first part was sung by men and the “echo” part by the women. This time, however, the female leader very naturally said “Women, follow me!” and sang the first part while the men sang the echo. Such a small thing, but incredibly poignant. I realized then how even as an egalitarian “converted” many years ago I am still so conditioned by the culture that it had never before ocurred to me to do that! It gives me such hope and joy to see my daughter’s generation doing things so differently!

Comment by LMcC

February 15, 2008 @ 8:20 pm

I have two, one of which actually happened when I was first changing over and before I left my old church:

The singles had a home Bible study on Monday nights. One time, we had communion, and men and women were passing the plates. All I could think was that I finally saw what church was supposed to look like. Too bad the rest of the church and the denomination ended up going the other way, but I’ll never forget that night.

The other one was not having my current pastor freak out over the wedding ceremony. We adapted the plan from Equality Depot for our service. The word “submitting” only showed up once in an Ephesians 5:21 quote, and they were part of Hubby’s responsive reading. Not a word about it from him, just talk about any last-minute details. (No gasps from the audience during the ceremony at that point either!)

Comment by LMcC

February 15, 2008 @ 8:22 pm

Oops, I forgot a line:

Up until that night at the study, I’d never seen a woman serve communion.

Comment by Ashleigh

February 15, 2008 @ 11:16 pm

To our credit (as one of the InterVarsity students in the chapter Whit mentions), we don’t always/often do it that way… but sometimes we do! I enjoy switching things up, especially letting the female part lead sometimes.

Last night, at the kick-off of our 24/7 Prayer event (the very cause for our bringing Whit to speak last year), and very fittingly, a first-year woman led worship! We’ve had women lead worship on a couple retreats, etc. recently, but it still seems rare than a woman is leading that time for our chapter. It’s a beautiful thing to me! This particular woman is interested in ministry, specifically as a worship/arts pastor.

Comment by Ashleigh

February 15, 2008 @ 11:16 pm

And when I say “to our credit,” I suppose I mean the opposite. In any case, I wanted to clarify and not receive more lauding that we deserve. ;o)

Comment by Sarah Timarwa

February 16, 2008 @ 1:05 am

This is great. I come from the Anglican Church background and live in Uganda and work in both African and multi-cultural settings.

When I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior in 1981, seeking to know and serve God became my priority ambition. Without any human guidance, I started passionately witnessing for Jesus and serving God in whatever way He would lead me. I was bold. Clearly I was being driven by another spirit within me. The gender issue did not arise at all until I desired to rise higher in ministry but even then it did not deter me. It simply opened my eyes to a giant enemy I was not aware of and gave me an opportunity to fight it and liberate other women. I persisted being led by the Holy Spirit.

Then I discovered Galatians 3:26-29, we are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, no male or female, Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise. This is liberating to any born-again woman who chooses to believe the message of the Bible and I started crusading among women with this revelation and I have seen many lives changed with many possessing their inheritance, starting their own churches etc.
The Holy Spirit vindicates women by giving us the same Spiritual gifts as our male counterparts confirming women too have been made competent as ministers of the new covenant(11 Corinthians 3:4-6) and priests and Kings through the blood of Jesus to serve Him (Revelation 1:5-6;5:9-10).
Therefore women have a responsibility to be transformed in their minds by believing God and the written Word and acting their faith. Romans 12:2 commands us not to conform any longer to the patterns of this world but to be renewed in our minds to be able to test and approve what God’s will is- the good, pleasing and perfect will. This is not possible unless we read and believe the truth in the Word of God and submit ourselves to the leading of the Spirit of God. .The world and most religious structures operate on certain patterns and standards but true believers of Jesus Christ who are sons of God are led by the Spirit of God if the Spirit lives in them (Romans 8:9, 14-15).Jesus was led by the Father in whatever He said or did (John 10:37-38; 12:49-50) and so we must, this is our pattern. We received the spirit of sonship not a spirit that makes us slaves to fear. Therefore in this spirit, let us encourage every woman to stir up her gift and boldly serve God in His love and sound doctrine from His Word of truth (11 Timothy 2 6-7).
The priesthood of a believer is within him/her and is not at all limited to the pulpit or church within four walls; it is everywhere. However we cannot see our priestly assignments until we abandon accepted worldly or religious patterns. Once this is done, the men will see the clear evidence of the working of the Holy Spirit in our lives and will have no alternative but to repent, honor and accept us as fellow ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Let us seek to know, honor and serve Him alone without any hidden agenda; He is with us.

Comment by Mindy

February 16, 2008 @ 7:36 pm

Whit and LMCC, isn’t it amazing that something as simple as women leading a musical verse rather than echoing, or women serving communion, can speak so powerfully? It goes to show the expectations our particular cultures have built into us. A similar experience to the one I described in my post was the first time I was asked to usher at a worship service—which happened to be at a CBE conference!

Ashleigh and Sarah, in addition to your spiritual service, you’re also providing an example—so thank you for your ministry leadership.

Comment by Judy

February 16, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

I am a woman pastor (Assembly of God). I have not lost a single person over this, and others have come. The male pastors (both in the community and in my denomination) have been very supportive, even though many of the other denominations here do not believe women should be at the pulpit. Although it is amusing when people ‘forget’ a woman pastors here. (We joke about my husband being a ‘pastor’s wife.’) Times are changing…. There is also the recurrent conversation with older Christian men from other denominations that goes something like this: “You’re a pastor? Yes. “You preach?” Yes. “From behind the pulpit?” Yes. (though by this point I want to say, ‘No, I yell it in from the back row…’ )
Ironically, in the same town that I pastor, we belong to a home school group that will not allow the women to pray aloud if there is even one man present, but they allow me, as a woman pastor, to continue to belong to their group!?

Comment by Liz

February 17, 2008 @ 10:13 pm

Thanks Mindy for asking for similar accounts and sharing your own special moments. It’s a change for us to recall good experiences and not always the hurtful ones. I had many encouraging words when growing up as people saw what God was doing in my life and I had no idea that being married would make such a difference to how I was seen in the church. There have been some memorable times, one of which was a time when I was asked to say grace at a seminar and was introduced as Pastor Liz and not Trevor’s wife as was so often the case. While I’m very happy being Trevor’s wife I do appreciate it when people refer to me as an individual whose walk with God is significant. The first time I was asked to pray publicly to open a meeting in a situation where it was usual for a man to do so was wonderful too. Any time I am treated as a child of God with equal standing before God and people still thrills me even though I have always believed that was the case, it is so good when people affirm it.

Comment by Susan

February 18, 2008 @ 8:29 am

My “ah-ha!” moment came in a low place. My husband and I had been through a difficult period in our marriage when we were not managing to communicate well. I felt the Spirit pressing on me to offer him an olive branch and I was resenting it, feeling ill-used. In a moment of anger I ground my teeth and asked why I had to be the vulnerable one who took responsibility for healing the relationship. The Lord answered, “How vulnerable was I?” and showed me the cross and everything He endured and let me understand in a flash that I was fully created in His image and what an honor it was. It took my breath away, silenced my self-pity, and healed my image of myself as a woman, all in one-thousandth of a second. God is good!

Comment by Christy

February 18, 2008 @ 2:01 pm

My moment came several years ago when, for the very first time, I was being fully accepted and respected as a teacher by certain Peruvian pastors. My husband and I were even introduced at the last conference as having an Aquila and Priscilla ministry.

Being perpetually quenched in my own country and sometimes criticized for daring to teach male leaders, has been a painful burden I live with daily. Therefore, I was in shock when first offered the freedom and encouragement to be myself by those in Peru. I felt like a caged bird who hesitates to fly out when its door is finally left open. Such liberty has been emotionally hard for me to even grasp. Only by seeing myself through God’s eyes do I have the courage to exercise this freedom He has given me.

Comment by Laura

February 27, 2008 @ 9:10 am

Like you, I was moved by a liturgy pronouncement. I began attending an ELCA congregation after having been raised an LCMS Lutheran. The moment came when a reference to “Abraham and Sarah” was spoken - rather than the usualy “Abraham” (only) in the liturgy. It moved me as your experience moved you. Words DO matter. They set a precident for ACTION!

Laura Ulicky-Weerts

Comment by Trevor

February 28, 2008 @ 9:46 pm

As I think about it my richest ‘aha’ moment came when Liz and I were able to attend a CBE conference in Orlando, Florida (I think 2003). Just being there, having come all the way from Australia, with so many like minded people and experiencing the genuine harmony and community among the presenters and attendees alike was awesome. But again, perhaps the ‘lump in the throat’ moment came in sharing communion with that same group of people. For me, the presence of God was palpable. Everything about how that communion service was conducted was significant. For me, there wasn’t any evidence of orchestrated emotional manipulation, just the powerful awareness that God was present and pleased. Perhaps it was the very absence of hype that so spoke to me. It was just so beautifully done, highlighting and completing everything else that had taken place over that incredible weekend.

Comment by Donna L. Carlaw

March 17, 2008 @ 9:29 pm

Mindy:
But when, during the celebration of the Eucharist, the rector addressed his prayer to “God of our ancestors: God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; God of Sarah, Rebekah, and Ruth,” I was stunned.>>>>

I am stunned, too. I wonder where God ever called Himself the God of our ancestors Sarah, Rebekah, and Ruth?

Maybe it is in a newer translation?

Comment by jlp

March 17, 2008 @ 11:24 pm

So Donna, God is not the God Sarah, Rebekah and Ruth? Is that what you are saying?

If He is not, then we should not say that He is. But if He is, there is nothing wrong with saying that He is.

Comment by Donna L. Carlaw

March 18, 2008 @ 1:27 am

Let’s see. When did it strike me that I am equal before God to my brothers and sisters in Christ?

God spoke to my heart, and I said that since He gave Himself for me, I give myself to Him. Maybe that was my “ah-ha” moment, when I knew that Christ had given Himself for me? I was a child, then - maybe 7 years old?

It is a wonderful thought that His love is no respector of persons. The conditions in coming to Him are repentance and faith - not sex, nationality, or station in life, or even age.

It was a Canadian woman of African descent who came to our poor, immigrant neighborhood to share the love of Christ with us. She was my kindergarten teacher.

There was another Canadian woman - a white one - who also came to teach us naughty children about Christ -and we were naughty.

Maybe Caro and Audrey were part of why I never even thought about women being kept back from serving God. Maybe not everyone had a Caro or an Audrey in their lives.

Comment by Liz

March 18, 2008 @ 6:21 am

Donna..thanks for sharing your special moment with us and for your account of the people who first told you the gospel. Many of us are grateful for those ones who took the time and trouble to speak to us when we were young.

We all need to embrace each other’s experiences without questioning their validity. I celebrate your ‘aha’ moment along with all the others shared on this post.

Comment by Liz

March 18, 2008 @ 6:29 am

It is obvious from some recent comments that some of you have ‘history’ with each other and your differing opinions. Having different opinions is one thing - calling each other ‘enemies’ is quite another matter and this blog is not the place to engage in this type of conversation.

I would like to remind us all of the stated purpose of this blog which is..
‘to promote peaceful, sincere and intelligent discussion’ and would suggest that some recent posts have not achieved this purpose and may be deleted.

Comment by jlp

March 18, 2008 @ 10:19 am

Isn’t God also the God of Donna Carlaw? Do you think that God would be upset if someone referred to him as such? I don’t think he would. In fact, he would be proud, just as your father was when someone would refer to him as the father of Donna Carlaw.

Comment by Donna L. Carlaw

March 18, 2008 @ 9:07 pm

Liz:
We all need to embrace each other’s experiences without questioning their validity. I celebrate your ‘aha’ moment along with all the others shared on this post.>>>

Yes! I understand what you mean. In my first post, I was reacting to the statement, while missing the point. My own “aha” moment had to do with realising that there was no age requirement for faith in Christ.

Others’ “aha” moments have to do with gender.

I am sorry for my wrong reaction in the first post. Yes, of course, all who have faith in Christ have God as our Father and Christ as our Saviour - regardless of age, sex, nationality, station in life, etc.

Thank you, Liz, and I stand corrected, and apologize to Mindy. Yes, this is a point of agreement between egalitarians and complementarians, so I don’t HAVE to disagree. ;-)

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