“God created black people to fill certain roles [i.e. waiters, nannies, and other subservient positions]. In order to do this, God gave them distinctive physical characteristics. For instance, black people have a natural sense of balance, which helps them with those trays piled with dishes when they’re a waiter. Why did God make black people this way? The answer can be found in the book of Genesis, which describes how, after the Flood, Noah cursed his son Canaan for seeing him naked. This son would be subservient to the others, Noah said. ‘Canaan’ means ‘dark’ so Noah was, essentially, cursing black people and telling them they would be subservient to their white brethren.”

So Lani Rae, you are hardly the first person to notice the similarites between the two–white patriarchalists were saying it themselves long ago. (After all, the racists who believed black people were inferior also believed Southern women should be helpless and swooning most of the time.) It’s just that since racism is no longer acceptable, modern comps can’t bring themselves to admit the similariaties.

Along the same lines, when The Scroll first started, they had an entry that was somewhat related to this issue. They quoted from a blogger who talked about Ephesians 5. This guy pointed out how, right after he talks about women, Paul tells slaves to obey their masters. If slavery is no longer acceptable, then why is the subordination of women? this blogger asked. Pose that question to a modern comp and you’ll probably get a lot of jargon about essences and the Trinity. It sounds as suspicious now as it did when Yancy’s pastor was saying it.

It’s the design one…

God ordained the order of humanity
slaves were designed to be subordinate
they fulfill God’s design by being slaves

I hear that one for women all the time. God ordained the order between men and women,
Women were not designed to lead but to be subordinate.
They fulfill God’s design by being subordinate.

I read the book, Slavery, Wives, Women and War

The author, which i can’t remember, draws several parallells… reading it is chilling.

Can you give an example of an argument of Southern Slave owners to justify slavery that are similar to the arguments against women in ministry? I believe you, I want to hear more of what you have to say on this issue.

I also felt that at times Hillary got a tough time from the press also.

I don’t know why these 2 women were singled out. Other women have run for high office and been treated better.

It is amazing that the media and others will still resort to comments about a person’s gender and what they are wearing to define them. It just shows how ingrained is the concept of ‘empty-headed women’. I suppose Hilary Clinton and Condaleeza (spelling?) Rice got similar comments when they started out.

In Australia, we have a deputy Prime MInister which is the ‘top’ postition in the Australian political scene and this lady has come in for a lot of criticism over the years too. Mind you…the men are criticised as well….how much they pay for a haircut, how they dress, how much money they have, what their wives do/own/wear…..anything to sell newspapers and put suspicion in people’s minds.

Obama has been amazingly calm, respectful and self-defined in a postive way through out the whole campaign. while i might not agree with his positions, i think he is a good leader and respectful of diversity.

I was just stating that the comedy and news seemed to focus on Palin’s wardrobe expenses, her looks, her figure and her sex appeal. Often she was depicted as a dumb bimbo type person. While she has growth to do in many political areas, she is not a bimbo.