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		<title>All’s Not Fair In &#8220;Love and War&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/01/all%e2%80%99s-not-fair-in-love-and-war/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A book review by Anna and Ryan Snyder This past fall, when we first learned John and Stasi Eldredge had written Love and War, a book on marriage, our initial reaction was negative, to say the least. Don’t get us wrong, we find the Eldredges’ desire to help people improve their marriages admirable. But having [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book review by Anna and Ryan Snyder</p>
<p>This past fall, when we first learned John and Stasi Eldredge had written <em>Love and War</em>, a book on marriage, our initial reaction was negative, to say the least. Don’t get us wrong, we find the Eldredges’ desire to help people improve their marriages admirable. But having just finished re-reading large portions of <em>Wild at Heart</em> and <em>Captivating</em>, their books on men and women, respectively, we instinctively worried about the advice they would give. The Eldredges often claim God created men and women as almost complete opposites, and as a couple firmly committed to the idea that women and men have more similarities in their humanity than they do differences in their gender, we weren’t clamoring to see this type of approach applied to marriage.</p>
<p>The book, however, exceeded our expectations. At times, we actually found ourselves wanting to like it. Unfortunately, at its conclusion, the negatives still outweighed the positives.</p>
<p>Focusing largely on their own experiences, the Eldredges begin by asserting marriage is “fabulously hard” (p. 13). In fact, given that (1) men and women are complete opposites, (2) we are all broken people, and (3) Satan hates marriage, they say it is a “miracle of the first order” that any marriage makes it all (p. 14). However, despite these difficulties, marriage plays a crucial role in God’s story. We live in a world at war, they write, and God gives us marriage to provide us with companionship, and as a picture of his love. Thus, although marriage is excruciatingly hard, God is on our side.</p>
<p>With all this in mind the Eldredges proceed to discuss a number of important, marriage-related issues. From communication, to sex, to having a shared mission in one’s marriage, they offer input and advice, much of it helpful. For example, they explain how people’s brokenness contributes to problems with their spouse, and they encourage people to embrace the resulting conflict as a way of seeking transformation. Additionally, their discussion of the need for both spouses to seek fulfillment in Christ, rather than each other, was commendable. Much of their advice even borders on being pro-egalitarian; they advise a process of mutual decision-making and encourage couples to exercise authority together in matters of spiritual warfare.</p>
<p>However, despite its good points, we reluctantly found ourselves increasingly frustrated with the authors. Their extreme negativity about marriage was exhausting; a few of the more choice examples include comparing the exchanging of wedding vows to the special forces “vowing their lives to one another as they embark on a perilous mission in dark lands, the outcome of which remains quite uncertain,” (p. 4), and claiming “if you cannot admit the disappointment of your marriage, you have made an idol out of it,” (p. 67). They also resort to stereotypes, often attributing marital difficulties to irreconcilable differences between the genders. Sadly, by persuading men and women they are complete opposites and that marriage is almost impossible, they may well convince them their marriage is irreparable, the exact problem the authors are trying to correct.</p>
<p>The authors also treat Scripture carelessly, taking it out of context and providing incomplete quotations, without indicating they have done so. They use pop culture even more heavily than they use the Bible, reporting that human-made movies and stories prove how God intended the world to be. Also, throughout the book the Eldredges often muffle their own meaning with indirect, unstructured, and hard to follow writing. They are overly repetitive both with unclear and weakly constructed analogies and by restating nearly all of <em>Wild at Heart</em> and <em>Captivating</em>.</p>
<p>When we finished with the book, we were left wondering why our marriage is not as hard as the authors say it should be. We have never contemplated divorce, wondered whether we made a mistake in getting married, or threw our hands up in resignation to the fact that marriage is just so hard. While it is true we have only been married for roughly two years, according to the authors, we should have found ourselves wildly disappointed with our marriage by now, or even contemplating divorce, as they were at this point. Yet, while marriage is sometimes difficult, the overwhelming majority of the time we have found it to be better than we ever imagined.</p>
<p>So why do the authors insist marriage is so difficult? Has this been true of your marriage…or are we abnormal in experiencing a joyful and fulfilling marriage? (We doubt the latter is the case.) Why is everyone – Christians included – so down on marriage? Is this a self-fulfilling prophecy (the old ball and chain, etc.)? What causes divorce rates to hover at 50% both within the church and outside it? What are we missing?</p>
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		<title>Lessons from the Blue Parakeet</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2008/12/lessons-from-the-blue-parakeet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ashleigh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When most of us egalitarians have a friend with questions about women in ministry, we offer them one of a few classic books.  We give them Gilbert Bilizekian&#8217;s Beyond Sex Roles or one of the multi-views books published by InterVarsity Press or Zondervan or perhaps (if we&#8217;re really creative!) refer them to an article on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When most of us egalitarians have a friend with questions about women in ministry, we offer them one of a few classic books.  We give them Gilbert Bilizekian&#8217;s <em>Beyond Sex Roles</em> or one of the multi-views books published by InterVarsity Press or Zondervan or perhaps (if we&#8217;re really creative!) refer them to an article on the CBE website.  We now, however, have at least one entirely different option: Scot McKnight&#8217;s new book <em>The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible</em>.</p>
<p>The remarkable thing about Scot&#8217;s book is that it&#8217;s not really about women in ministry or anything else relating to gender&#8211;it is, as the title, suggests, about how to read the Bible.  The first section of the book is about reading the Bible as a larger narrative (similar to how N. T. Wright suggests we read it in books of his like <em>The Last Word</em>), the middle sections are about ways to interpret the Bible, and the final section applies these principles to the issue of women in ministry.  The genius of the book is twofold:</p>
<p>(1) Those that have no interest in gender issues may end up thinking about them because they wanted to read this book about interpreting Scripture.</p>
<p>(2) Those that are interested in gender issues can read this book and focus a lot less on the back-and-forth between egalitarians and complementarians (which has its place) to, instead, consider this much broader and&#8211;in many ways&#8211;more important issue of how to read the Bible.  Once their way of reading the Bible is different, it&#8217;s unlikely they can return to their same old views of gender nearly as easily.</p>
<p>Admittedly, there were aspects of the book I wasn&#8217;t completely enthused by, and you may wish to read a more complete review of the book on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Parakeet-Rethinking-Read-Bible/dp/0310284880" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBlue-Parakeet-Rethinking-Read-Bible%2Fdp%2F0310284880','Amazon')">Amazon</a> or <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2008/10/review_the_blue.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fblog.christianitytoday.com%2Foutofur%2Farchives%2F2008%2F10%2Freview_the_blue.html','Christianity+Today')">Christianity Today</a> before giving it to a friend.  However, solely considering its merit as a resource with the potential to improve the status of women in Western evangelical churches, I am quite impressed.</p>
<p>What I most admire about the book is its ability to see the big picture.  While many of us are so passionate about gender issues that we could spend all day discussing the related Bible passages, Scot realizes the interpretation of these passages is not his top priority.  Seeing the many academics that debate women&#8217;s roles, I think we often forget the place most lay people are in: it&#8217;s not just that they don&#8217;t know the Greek and Hebrew to solve this gender mystery themselves.  Rather, if we are to ever move forward on this, or many other issues in the church, we&#8217;re going to have to study&#8211;and dialog about&#8211;how to read the Bible to begin with.   After all, few of our churches really teach us to handle this seemingly basic task.</p>
<p>Scot&#8217;s book may not please everyone in the sophistication of his argument for women&#8217;s equality, nor the depth of its coverage of this larger question about Scripture, but I think we could learn a lot from his humble willingness to let the specific issues of women in ministry take a backseat while we work tirelessly to improve general interpretive skills.  Each emphasis has its place in our writing and teaching, of course, but <em>The Blue Parakeet</em> fills a gap few seem to have noticed.  While it&#8217;s crucial to continue our study of the specific issue of women in ministry, let&#8217;s not forget the foundational questions we must help people answer in order for them to mature in their faith.  We may be surprised just how well more specific issues like gender equality can be connected to these larger questions and how much more open people are to new ideas when approached from that broader and potentially less threatening angle.</p>
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		<title>A Call for Articles on &#8216;Resolving Conflicts&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/12/a-call-for-articles-on-resolving-conflicts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mutuality is now accepting articles (and discussion surrounding the issue) for the Summer 2008 issue on ‘Resolving Conflicts.’ Topic ideas include, but are not limited to: How convictions about biblical equality and gender justice apply to resolving conflict Biblical alternatives to &#8216;the tie-breaking-vote&#8217; model of conflict resolution by female submission to male headship The importance [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Mutuality</em> is now accepting articles (and discussion surrounding the issue) for the Summer 2008 issue on ‘Resolving Conflicts.’</p>
<p>Topic ideas include, but are not limited to:</p>
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<li>How convictions about biblical equality and gender justice apply to resolving conflict</li>
<li>Biblical alternatives to &#8216;the tie-breaking-vote&#8217; model of conflict resolution by female submission to male headship</li>
<li>The importance of prayer for resolving conflict</li>
<li>Whether there is a &#8216;middle way&#8217; between egalitarianism and male headship</li>
<li>Appropriate and inappropriate anger</li>
<li>Biblical reflections: examples of how Jesus handled conflict, Jacob and Esau’s reconciliation, rivalry between Sarah and Hagar, etc.</li>
<li>Examples of Christians who are/were reconcilers as well as examples of Christians who refuse(d) to compromise on truth</li>
<li>Practical tips and reflections on race and gender reconciliation in Christ</li>
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<p>Please send specific ideas or proposals to mgreulich@cbeinternational.org.</p>
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		<title>A Call for Articles on &#8216;Home Economics&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/11/a-call-for-papers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mutuality  is now accepting articles (and discussion surrounding the issue) for the Spring 2008 issue on &#8216;Home Economics.&#8217; Topic ideas include, but are not limited to: How convictions about biblical equality and gender justice apply to every day home life Biblical reflections: Christ as the head of our homes; being part of the family of God; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Mutuality</em>  is now accepting articles (and discussion surrounding the issue) for the Spring 2008 issue on &#8216;Home Economics.&#8217;</p>
<p>Topic ideas include, but are not limited to:</p>
<ul>
<li>How convictions about biblical equality and gender justice apply to every day home life</li>
<li>Biblical reflections: Christ as the head of our homes; being part of the family of God; Proverbs 31 woman</li>
<li>How Christian convictions about women’s equality have transformed culturally-specific family models (e.g. polygamy, female infanticide, education of women and girls)</li>
<li>Examples of sharing responsibility in the home; non-traditional divisions of labor (e.g. men who sew or cook; women who fix the car)</li>
<li>Home economics for singles, roommates, and communal living situations</li>
<li>Critique of the model of husband as head of the home; critique of traditional &#8216;for women only&#8217; approaches to home economics</li>
<li>Faithful Christian examples of stay-at-home dads, working mothers, single parents</li>
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<p>Please send specific ideas or proposals to mgreulich@cbeinternational.org. The deadline is November 28th.</p>
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		<title>A Call for Papers</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/08/call-for-papers-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The online journal E-Quality is seeking papers for its upcoming issue, themed &#8216;Youth Groups and Equality.&#8217; In it, we hope to provide practical resources for youth workers and parents as they address biblical equality with their students. Article ideas include, but are not limited to: 1. What are the unique needs of our students today? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The online journal <em><a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/new/E-Journal/index/index.htm" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2FE-Journal%2Findex%2Findex.htm','E-Quality')">E-Quality </a></em> is seeking papers for its upcoming issue, themed &#8216;Youth Groups and Equality.&#8217; In it, we hope to provide practical resources for youth workers and parents as they address biblical equality with their students. Article ideas include, but are not limited to:</p>
<p>1. What are the unique needs of our students today? Do they need to hear the message of equality? How do we reach them with that message? </p>
<p>2. How do we encourage our students to care about justice and advocate for those who are oppressed? How do we present the issue of women in leadership as not only a theological debate but also a justice issue? </p>
<p>3. Does a focus on racial reconciliation help students better understand gender reconciliation? How do we foster youth group environments that celebrate and encourage guys and girls of all races and ethnic backgrounds? </p>
<p>4. A Bible study geared for students on the biblical basis for shared leadership between women and men. </p>
<p>5. A book review of Ginny Olson&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.equalitydepot.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&#038;ProdID=1106" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.equalitydepot.com%2Findex.asp%3FPageAction%3DVIEWPROD%26ProdID%3D1106','Teenage+Girls')">Teenage Girls</a></em>.</p>
<p>The deadline for this issue is September 7th. Please write Megan at mgreulich@cbeinternational.org as soon as possible if you are interested.</p>
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		<title>The Subjection of Islamic Women</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2007/06/the-subjection-of-islamic-women/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to point out an article in The Weekly Standard by Christina Hoff Sommers, in the May 21, 2007 issue, called &#8220;The Subjection of Islamic Women and the Fecklessness of American Feminism.&#8221; The first paragraph reads as follows: &#8220;The subjection of women in Muslim societies&#8211;especially in Arab nations and in Iran&#8211;is today very [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out an article in <i>The Weekly Standard</i> by Christina Hoff Sommers, in the May 21, 2007 issue, called <a href://"http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/641szkys.asp">&#8220;The Subjection of Islamic Women and the Fecklessness of American Feminism.&#8221;</a>  The first paragraph reads as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;The subjection of women in Muslim societies&#8211;especially in Arab nations and in Iran&#8211;is today very much in the public eye. Accounts of lashings, stonings, and honor killings are regularly in the news, and searing memoirs by Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Azar Nafisi have become major best-sellers. One might expect that by now American feminist groups would be organizing protests against such glaring injustices, joining forces with the valiant Muslim women who are working to change their societies. This is not happening.&#8221;</p>
<p>She goes on a couple of paragraphs down:   &#8220;The condition of Muslim women may be the most pressing women&#8217;s issue of our age, but for many contemporary American feminists it is not a high priority. Why not?  The reasons are rooted in the worldview of the women who shape the concerns and activities of contemporary American feminism. That worldview is&#8211;by tendency and sometimes emphatically&#8211;antagonistic toward the United States, agnostic about marriage and family, hostile to traditional religion, and wary of femininity. The contrast with Islamic feminism could hardly be greater.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sommers then follows with example after example of the skewed priorities of American (secular) feminism and takes them to task for their moral short sightedness.  She sites Katha Pollitt, a columnist at the <i>Nation</i>, for example, who draws a &#8220;common thread of misogyny&#8221; between Christian Evangelicals and the Taliban, and journalist Barbara Ehrenreich, who characterizes Christian evangelical movements (that&#8217;s us!) as &#8220;Christian Wahhabism,&#8221; i.e., the name of the sect that is the inspiration for Osama bin Laden.  These radical feminist philosophies &#8220;collapse moral categories in ways that defy logic, common sense, and basic decency,&#8221; such as casually placing &#8220;limiting young people&#8217;s access to accurate information about sex and opposing abortion [in the U.S.] on the same plane as throwing acid in women&#8217;s faces and stoning them to death&#8221; [in third world countries]. Likewise they seem to be &#8220;incapable of distinguishing between private American groups that stigmatize gays and foreign governments that hang them.&#8221;</p>
<p>It may be that some of these feminists are tied up in knots by multiculturalism, she says, and find it difficult to pass judgment on non-Western cultures. Maybe they find it easier to find fault with American society for minor inequities than criticizing heinous practices elsewhere.  To her credit, Sommers does mention some activity in the secular feminist movement, such as Eleanor Smeal and Mavis Leno&#8217;s efforts with the Feminist Majority Foundation (FMF) to create a national campaign in 1997 to expose the crimes of the Taliban.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Muslim women are creating their own growing movement to address their plight.   &#8220;Islamic feminists,&#8221; says Sommers, &#8220;believe that women&#8217;s rights are compatible with Islam rightly understood. One of their central projects is progressive religious reform. Through careful translation and interpretation of the Koran and other sacred texts, scholars challenge interpretations that have been used to justify sexist customs. They point out that forced veiling, arranged marriages, and genital cutting are rooted in tribal paganism and are nowhere enjoined by the Koran. Where the Koran explicitly permits a practice such as the physical chastisement of wives by husbands, the feminist exegetes try to show that, like slavery, the practice is anachronistic and incompatible with the true spirit of the faith. This kind of interpretation of scripture has been practiced by Jewish, Christian, and Islamic scholars for centuries. Now Islamic women want to play a part in it, and nothing in Islamic law, they believe, prohibits their doing so.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much of this slanted piece I believe, but it does appear that Islamic feminism differs radically from its best known contemporary American secular counterpart &#8212; having instead a  faith-based, family-centered and positive-towards-men approach. Too bad that the CBE version of gender equality isn&#8217;t better known, or Sommers might have seen some hope in America.</p>
<p>I appreciate CBE&#8217;s international scope and was happy to see the most recent issue of <i>Priscilla Papers</i> highlights gender justice worldwide.  The moral need and imperative to engage Muslims can&#8217;t be emphasized enough.  Does anyone else see an opportunity for Christian egalitarians to dialog with and help our Muslim sisters?  Although the details may be different, we speak the same type of religious language and have similar approaches.  Perhaps some CBE members have already involved themselves in such projects.  If so, why aren&#8217;t they better known?  Maybe if [more/bigger/more impressive] joint projects could be undertaken, perhaps both our respective patriarchal societies could be helped.</p>
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		<title>Best Bibles?</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2006/07/best-bibles/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Evangelical Christian Publishing Association (ECPA) has announced this year’s finalists for their Christian Book Awards. Normally, I do not pay attention to these types of awards, because I like to judge a book for myself rather than take somebody else’s word for it whether the book is good or not. However, a couple of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Evangelical Christian Publishing Association (ECPA) has announced this year’s <a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/cms_sp?sp=85588&#038;event=HPRN_1" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.christianbook.com%2FChristian%2FBooks%2Fcms_sp%3Fsp%3D85588%26event%3DHPRN_1','finalists+for+their+Christian+Book+Awards')">finalists for their Christian Book Awards</a>.  Normally, I do not pay attention to these types of awards, because I like to judge a book for myself rather than take somebody else’s word for it whether the book is good or not.  However, a couple of entries under the category of “Best Bible” disturb me.  They are <em>The Holman CSB Minister&#8217;s Bible</em> and <em>The ESV Reformation Study Bible</em>.  Let me explain why it bothers me that either of these would be considered the best Bible that Christians can study.</p>
<p>To begin with, both the CSB and the ESV were created as a protest to the TNIV.  How do we know this?  Well, let’s take a look at the CSB first.  It is published by Broadman &#038; Holman, who are the publishers for the Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist denomination.  <a href="http://www.bible-researcher.com/csb.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bible-researcher.com%2Fcsb.html','David+R.+Shepherd%2C+Vice-President')">David R. Shepherd, Vice-President</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Some recent translations have reinterpreted the Bible to make it consistent with current trends and their own way of thinking&#8230;. Current trends in Bible translation have been a real wake-up call for everybody who&#8217;s concerned about preserving the integrity of Scripture. The CSB will be under the stewardship of Christians who believe we should conform our lives and culture to the Bible &#8211; not the other way around.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So what were the “recent translations” and “current trends” that the translators of the CSB were worried about?  Well, according to Michael Marlowe:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Christian Standard Bible (CSB) was conceived as a replacement for the NIV, which the SBC Sunday School Board had been using in its curriculum materials under a license agreement. The NIV became controversial after the International Bible Society acknowledged in 1997 that it was revising the NIV with &#8220;politically correct&#8221; gender neutral language, and so in 1998 the Sunday School Board entered into an agreement with Arthur Farstad… to oversee the production of a new version that would be under its own control [see article above]. </p></blockquote>
<p>Now let’s take a look at the <a href="http://www.bible-researcher.com/esv.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bible-researcher.com%2Fesv.html','ESV')">ESV</a>. Again, according to Michael Marlowe:</p>
<blockquote><p>The English Standard Version (ESV)… had its roots in discussions that took place before the May 1997 meeting called by James Dobson at Focus on the Family headquarters to resolve the <b>inclusive NIV issue.</b></p>
<p>The night prior to the meeting, critics of regendered language gathered in a Colorado Springs hotel room to discuss the next day&#8217;s strategy… The group discussed the merits of the Revised Standard Version… recently replaced by the New Revised Standard Version, a regendered update. </p>
<p>Some months later&#8230;Wayne Grudem and Crossway President Lane Dennis entered into negotiations…to use the 1971 revision of the Revised Standard Version as the basis for a new translation.</p></blockquote>
<p>In addition to Grudem, big name scholar J. I. Packer was also present at that meeting, the author of a February 1991 article in <em>Christianity Today</em> entitled “Let’s Stop Making Women Presbyters,” an article which <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/new/free_articles/TNIV_untold_story.shtml" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2Ffree_articles%2FTNIV_untold_story.shtml','Craig+L.+Blomberg+has+also+answered')" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2Ffree_articles%2FTNIV_untold_story.shtml','CBE+has+refuted')">CBE has refuted</a>. The resulting Colorado Springs Guidelines listed concerns over using gender-neutral language in biblical translation, which <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/new/free_articles/TNIV_untold_story.shtml" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2Ffree_articles%2FTNIV_untold_story.shtml','Craig+L.+Blomberg+has+also+answered')" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2Ffree_articles%2FTNIV_untold_story.shtml','CBE+has+refuted')"> Craig L. Blomberg has also answered</a>.  <a href="http://englishbibles.blogspot.com/2006/06/apology-to-my-pastors-wife_09.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fenglishbibles.blogspot.com%2F2006%2F06%2Fapology-to-my-pastors-wife_09.html','Others')">Others </a>have criticized the Guidelines as well.</p>
<p>Given all this, then, the question must be asked, when you have a preconceived bias on a particular issue, is it possible to set aside that bias when it comes to translating the Bible, or will that bias carry into the translation?  One of the <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/new/pdf_files/free_articles/TNIV_Kohlenberger.pdf" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbeinternational.org%2Fnew%2Fpdf_files%2Ffree_articles%2FTNIV_Kohlenberger.pdf','tenets+of+the+Guidelines')">tenets of the Guidelines</a> is “We agree that Bible translation should not be influenced by illegitimate intrusions of secular culture or by political or ideological agendas.” So did the translators of the CSB and ESV set aside any ideological agendas they might have had?</p>
<p>Let’s look at an example: 2 Timothy 2:2.  Both the CSB and the ESV render this verse as: <i>And what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, commit to faithful men who will be able to teach others also</i>.  In the Greek, <i>anthropos</i> means “mankind, all people.”  So why, then, is it rendered only as “men” in these two translations?</p>
<p>I cannot speak for the translators of the CSB.  However, here is what <a href="http://englishbibles.blogspot.com/2006/02/j-i-packer-and-2-tim-22.html" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fenglishbibles.blogspot.com%2F2006%2F02%2Fj-i-packer-and-2-tim-22.html','Packer+said')">Packer said</a> in an interview about the ESV’s rendering of “men” in that verse:</p>
<blockquote><p>Suzanne: I have to ask you about 2 Tim. 2:2. Did you think that <em>anthropos</em> referred to “men” in this verse?</p>
<p>Dr. Packer: I think it means “men” exegetically. We think that it means “men”…</p>
<p>Suzanne: I was brought up with that verse in our Christian Fellowship and I always thought that it was &#8216;men and women&#8217;. It was quite a shock to me to find that people would think that it was “men only.”</p>
<p>Dr. Packer: Well, Paul doesn’t say that it was “men only,” he just says “men,” but <b>in the situation, it was to the teachers, surely it is obvious from the context that they were men.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>This apparent bias appears in other passages, as well.  In Romans 16:7, the ESV has <i>Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.</i>  According to New Testament scholar Jay Eldon Epp, however, “among the apostles” is the correct translation.  (See his book <em><a href="http://www.equalitydepot.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&#038;ProdID=933" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.equalitydepot.com%2Findex.asp%3FPageAction%3DVIEWPROD%26ProdID%3D933','Junia%3A+The+First+Woman+Apostle')">Junia: The First Woman Apostle</a></em>)  That’s a big difference! The CSB has “among the apostles.”  This, and the fact that most other translations &#8212; including the NASV, KJV, NIV, and NRSV &#8212; have “among” makes the ESV stand out even more.  To its credit, though, the CSB and ESV do translate the name “Junia” correctly as female.  Most recent conservative translations, such as the NIV, have rendered it incorrectly as a male name. One does wonder, however, what the supporters of the CSB think about Paul’s naming a woman among the apostles.</p>
<p>When it comes to choosing a Bible, there are many fine choices.  I myself like using more than one version.  However, a person should always ask the basic question: how accurate is this translation?  In that regard, I believe it is possible to say that not all Bibles are created equal.</p>
<p>Lori</p>
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		<title>Gendered Bible Book Stores</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2006/05/gendered-bible-book-stores/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m wondering if many of you are uncomfortable in Bible book stores. It seems like an awful lot of them are highly gendered. Books aimed at women and girls (guess which ones); books aimed at men and boys (&#8220;Bible stories of strength and courage!&#8221;). Non-book items, more than half the inventory, like pseudo-Victorian home knick-knacks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if many of you are uncomfortable in Bible book stores.  It seems like an awful lot of them are highly gendered.  Books aimed at women and girls (guess which ones); books aimed at men and boys (&#8220;Bible stories of strength and courage!&#8221;).  Non-book items, more than half the inventory, like pseudo-Victorian home knick-knacks (decorative pastel figurines like Precious Moments), dried flower wreaths and teddy bears give a sweet, non-cognitive feeling to the place.</p>
<p>Julie Ingersoll makes similar observations in a chapter of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0814737706/qid=1147466217/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-9172911-8023922?s=books&#038;v=glance&#038;n=283155" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0814737706%2Fqid%3D1147466217%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%2F104-9172911-8023922%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155','Evangelical+Christian+Women%3B+War+Stories+in+the+Gender+Battles')">Evangelical Christian Women; War Stories in the Gender Battles</a> called, &#8220;The Power of Subtle Arrangements and Little Things,&#8221; where she says, &#8220;But what is most interesting is that the distinct demarcation between genders is carried through from the toys to the items intended for adults.  While there is an element of genderedness to gifts and books in the large culture, it is not nearly so prominent as it is in the Christian bookstores.&#8221;  Christian writers wanting to break through the stereotypes, as we&#8217;ve seen in a recent <a href="http://blog.cbeinternational.org/?p=38" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cbeinternational.org%2F%3Fp%3D38','post')">post</a>, have their work cut out for them.  A look in most any Bible book store will be most sobering.</p>
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		<title>Ms. Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2006/04/ms-magazine/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently we been noticed by Ms. Magazine, even if only for marketing purposes. I received the following email. The new issue of Ms. is on newsstands today (April 24), full of its usual galvanizing coverage of the feminist movement. We thought some of the stories might make for interesting posts on The Scroll or Christian [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently we been noticed by <a href="http://www.msmagazine.com/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msmagazine.com%2F','Ms.+Magazine')"><em>Ms. Magazine</em></a>, even if only for marketing purposes.  I received the following email.</p>
<p><em>The new issue of Ms. is on newsstands today (April 24), full of its usual galvanizing coverage of the feminist movement. We thought some of the stories might make for interesting posts on <a href="http://blog.cbeinternational.org/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cbeinternational.org%2F','The+Scroll')">The Scroll</a> or <a href="http://christianegalitarians.org/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fchristianegalitarians.org%2F','Christian+Egalitarians')">Christian Egalitarians</a>, particularly Ani&#8217;s recent work to revitalize Buffalo, Geena Davis&#8217; campaign to get female characters into G-rated movies, and our cover story&#8211;on the women garment workers who are the real victims of the Jack Abramoff scandal. In addition, gender and language expert Deborah Tannen explained to Ms. why her new New York Times bestseller, &#8220;You&#8217;re Wearing That? Understanding Mothers and Daughters in Conversation,&#8221; is a feminist book.  [from] Jessica</em></p>
<p>Anyone read this mag regularly?</p>
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