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		<title>A Christmas Meditation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just thinking about the way God chose to come to earth to begin the huge task of reconciling the world to himself. No wonder the religious leaders of the day had trouble recognising the Messiah as they expected a huge fanfare at his arrival. Not only did God not choose to announce his coming to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thinking about the way God chose to come to earth to begin the huge task of reconciling the world to himself. No wonder the religious leaders of the day had trouble recognising the Messiah as they expected a huge fanfare at his arrival. Not only did God not choose to announce his coming to the teachers of the law, but he chose to send an angel to the woman who was to bear the child Jesus. Not to her father or even her fiance, but to Mary first and while she was alone.</p>
<p>Unlike  some other recipients of angelic messages, Mary accepted what was told to her, even though she questioned how it might happen. After the angel explained the supernatural way in which she would become pregnant, there was no more questioning&#8230;Mary accepted what the angel had said and replied that she was ready to be the Lord&#8217;s servant. Not only that, but she rushed off to visit her cousin Elizabeth to share the good news and rejoice with Elizabeth who was also expecting a child, even though she was thought to be too old to bear children.</p>
<p>Can you imagine these two women, bound together by the excitement of both expecting babies which were miracles of conception. Why, even the baby in Elizabeth&#8217;s womb jumped for joy at Mary&#8217;s arrival and Elizabeth said of Mary &#8220;Blessed woman, who believed what God said, believed every word would come true.&#8221;  And in reply, Mary said &#8220;I&#8217;m bursting with God-news; I&#8217;m dancing the song of my Saviour God. What God has done for me will never be forgotten. It is exactly what he promised, beginning with Abraham and right up to now&#8221;  What a wonderful 3 months they would have had together before Mary returned to her home.</p>
<p>Both these women believed what God had said would happen and could see it was all part of God&#8217;s great plan of redemption. Amazing, since they were not skilled in the law as that was reserved for Jewish men and there is no mention of their needing anyone to interpret the meaning of these events. God planned from the beginning of time to reveal himself in this way, to these women at this most momentous time in history &#8211; the God who never makes mistakes and who does everything at just the right time through the people he chooses. This should encourage every one of us to listen out for God&#8217;s voice in our hearts.</p>
<p>(Bible references from Luke in &#8216;The Message&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Wing to Wing and Oar to Oar&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Family]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gender Equality]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he had said so a few years ago, I would’ve smiled and nodded.  Today, however, I blinked, smiled sweetly and asked my friend to explain. Bart (not his real name) was telling me about his role as “family priest.”  I told him why I disagreed.  Now, I like Bart.  He’s a well-spoken, gregarious fifty-something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he had said so a few years ago, I would’ve smiled and nodded.  Today, however, I blinked, smiled sweetly and asked my friend to explain.</p>
<p>Bart (not his real name) was telling me about his role as “family priest.”  I told him why I disagreed.  Now, I like Bart.  He’s a well-spoken, gregarious fifty-something with ten kids and five grand kids.  We’ve worked together on various projects and ministry events, primarily at the local Christian camp.  Bart’s an engaging, amiable guy and although I like him personally, our paths diverge on the issue of gender roles like the Rift Valley splits East Africa. “Family priest” was a case in point.  (If you’re unfamiliar with this concept, Google “family priest.” That’s okay.  I’ll wait.)</p>
<p>What is a “priest”?  The basic definition is: “A person authorized to perform and administer religious rites as an intermediary between the people and God.”  This definition goes hand-in-glove with <strong><em>Sac·er·do·tal·ism, </em></strong>the belief that priests act as mediators between God and human beings.</p>
<p>There are variations on the “family priest” theme.  Advocates typically base their argument(s) in the Old Testament, citing Melchizidek, Eleazar and so on.  Without rehashing the concept <em>en toto</em>, it’s essentially rooted in the husband-as-head and authority view of gender roles based on a hierarchical ordering of relationships.  Entire books have been written on this subject.  In a nutshell, the “family priest” adherents that I’ve encountered advocate the following&#8230;</p>
<p>“There is no doubt about the priestly role of the wife in a family (specifically for the children), but the husband becomes the ‘Chief Priest’ (or High Priest as Christ was). The wife becomes the secondary authority over the children.”</p>
<p>Notice the word “secondary” in reference to the wife.  If theirs is a “secondary” priesthood as suggested above, doesn’t that make it limited “priesthood,” or not as fully functional as a man’s?  Why?  (Incidentally, the “family priest” concept is also found in Mormonism, Zen, and Hinduism.)</p>
<p>The concept is discussed further in &#8216;Kenosis Communications&#8217; as per the following (My comments appear in italics):</p>
<li>First mention of the word “priest” is used in reference to <em>Melchizedek. </em>But Cf. Cain and Abel functioning as their own priests. <em>How can children such as Cain and Abel function “as their own priests” when this role is supposedly restricted to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">fathers/husbands</span></em>? <em> </em></li>
<p><em> </em></p>
<ul>
<li>The Jews had the office of the priests. Other Nations also did, cf. Egyptians and Midianites W<em>hy would Christian homes replicate a model embraced by pagan cultures?</em></li>
</ul>
<p><em> </em></p>
<ul>
<li>But before that every family had the function of the priest. – The Father or the Patriarch of the family<em>.  (Where is this written?)</em></li>
</ul>
<p><em> </em></p>
<ul>
<li>Fathers were priests before the Levitical system.  <em>(Why, oh why, would a NT Christian return to the Levitical system?  Check out Paul’s letter to the churches in Galatia.)</em></li>
</ul>
<p><em> </em></p>
<ul>
<li>Now each believer is a priest (1Pet 2:9; Rev 1:6), but the fathers, who know the Lord still have a priestly function to perform within the family.  <em>How can this “but” be?  Either “each believer is a priest” or he/she is not.  In the passage from Peter cited, “But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light (I Peter 2:9, NIV), the “but you” is </em>humeis de<em>, meaning “but you, plural”  i.e., <span style="text-decoration: underline;">every</span> New Testament believer.  “Royal priesthood” membership is based on saving faith, not gender.</em></li>
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<p><em> </em></p>
<ul>
<li>We need to remember that pastors are not priests. They oftentimes perform priestly functions, but they are not priests. All believers are now priests cf. priesthood of all believers … <em>except women?  And by the way, who is “all”?  Either &#8220;all&#8221; means everyone, regardless of gender, or it doesn’t mean “all.” </em></li>
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<p>I asked Bart about Hebrew 4:14:  <em>Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.  … Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.</em> (Hebrews 4:14, 16, NIV)</p>
<p>“So,” I queried, “according to your husband/father ‘high priest’ model, I Timothy 2:5 reads: “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, <em>man</em>”?</p>
<p><strong>Some questions</strong></p>
<p>Some more questions I asked Bart:</p>
<p>-         What happened to Christ?  Did he abdicate his High Priest role to husbands/fathers, post-resurrection?</p>
<p>-         Semantic sidestepping aside, doesn’t the “family priest” notion advocate – either implicitly or explicitly – that women and children are somehow unable or incapable of approaching the Throne of Grace directly?  As in, a male intermediary is required?</p>
<p>-         Does this view demean women by implying that theirs is a second-class citizenship within the household of faith?</p>
<p>-         Doesn’t this place an impossibly heavy load on one person within the family?</p>
<p>-         Who intercedes for the husband?  If he is able to assume the “priestly function” for himself as a responsible adult, why not likewise the wife – or is she a lesser “adult”?</p>
<p>-         Doesn’t “family priest” set up the husband as a demi-god?</p>
<p>-         Is Christ’s sacrifice on the cross sufficient to ensure full, direct access to God to anyone who believes, regardless of gender?  Or is access to God limited for females?</p>
<p>It was a lively discussion.  I emphasized that I’m not advocating the diminishment of men, husbands, or fathers, nor am I suggesting that women or wives treat their male counterparts with disrespect or disdain.  What I am advocating is <em>mutuality</em>.  (Having spent more than forty years in the other camp, my husband and I did not embrace mutuality lightly or rashly.  It took years of intensive review, prayer, discussion and dialogue before we became convinced <em>from the text </em>that<em> mutuality</em> is the biblical model for marriage as set forth in the <em>whole counsel</em> of Scripture.)</p>
<p>I quoted a portion of Robert Frost’s <em>The Master Speed </em>to illustrate<em>:</em></p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Two such as you with such a master speed<br />
Cannot be parted nor be swept away<br />
From one another once you are agreed<br />
That life is only life forevermore<br />
<strong>Together</strong> wing to wing and oar to oar</em>.  (Emphasis added)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Bart and I  agreed to disagree on the question of “family priest.”  I smiled.  So did he.   In the meantime, I’m trusting the One who created male and female to reflect His glory <strong>together</strong><em> &#8211; wing to wing and oar to oar</em> &#8211; to enlighten the eyes of Bart’s heart.<br />
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		<title>Momentarily Persuaded</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/11/momentarily-persuaded/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the very beginning of our ministry life together my wife (Liz) and I have had an egalitarian approach to both marriage and ministry. Way back then we were unaware of the extensive body of literature available that supports such a stance and so it was more of a preferred and personal way of doing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the very beginning of our ministry life together my wife (Liz) and I have had an egalitarian approach to both marriage and ministry. Way back then we were unaware of the extensive body of literature available that supports such a stance and so it  was more of a preferred and personal way of doing things. Even though I am more naturally an expository preacher, I recall having great difficulty preaching with any conviction the apparent &#8216;male headship&#8217; referred to in Ephesians 5:23, or offering an alternative, so I usually avoided going there. When our children were small Liz was more restricted to the home which left me to attend to church leadership matters but we always talked about issues at home and I valued immensely her wise and experienced input. We tried to teach and model a marriage based on mutuality but many of our new converts, even though previously unchurched, somehow picked up on this issue of male headship and were quite strident in their application of it. Lacking the tools to counter  these developments we never tackled this issue head on. I can remember quite clearly one of the deacon&#8217;s wives stating to us after a home group meeting, (her husband had just returned from a men&#8217;s convention) &#8220;What do you think of my husband&#8217;s new theology?,&#8221; referring to him now being the &#8216;head&#8217; and &#8216;priest&#8217; of the family. At the time we both responded rather meekly. Something we lived to regret.</p>
<p>As the church grew and we, of necessity, had multiple leaders it was difficult to find people who were on exactly the same page. After one of the Elder&#8217;s meetings I did as I usually do, ran things by my wife when I got home. There wasn&#8217;t anything secretive but somehow it got back to an elder who was quite opposed to women in leadership, and he brought the matter up at the next meeting. He insisted that Elder&#8217;s meetings were private affairs and that our decisions were not up for discussion, even at home. Up to that time we were encouraging the leaders and wives to meet together socially so that the wives could feel included in their husband&#8217;s role within the life of the church. Anyway, here was one of those moments when I was momentarily persuaded to do things differently. I would not discuss church matters with my wife at all. Church business would be just that, business! Business that had nothing to do with my wife. I found myself behaving most unnaturally and very much against the way that we previously related. It was incredibly uncomfortable and hurtful for both of us. The experience lasted a week, but sadly I was &#8216;momentarily persuaded.&#8217; I need to add here that we (LIz and I) are both gifted to lead so denying my wife  an awareness of what was going on in a ministry that we both shared (at that time unofficially) was potentially disastrous for us as a couple.</p>
<p>Eventually that elder moved on and we were able to encourage the church to embrace both Liz and I as being involved in ministry together.</p>
<p>Another time when I was &#8216;momentarily persuaded&#8217; was immediately during and after a combined church camp where the speaker addressed the issue of family life. He spoke very convincingly of the husband&#8217;s role as an initiator and the wife as a responder. Using illustrations from his perception of the creation order and, what I consider now to be rather crude expressions of sexual function, he insisted that this is how order within marriage should be established and maintained. It was many, many years ago but I came away from that camp thinking that perhaps I should put this concept of marriage and family into practice. Suffice to say that that experiment barely lasted the week, but I was, &#8216;momentarily persuaded,&#8217; mostly because we didn&#8217;t have the tools to refute such strong, passionately presented and persistent arguments.</p>
<p>Thankfully now, through the ministry and materials of CBE, we are much more aware and equipped to stand up for what we know to be true and have been able to bring others on the journey. Perhaps others of you out there have had similar experiences in your own journey and have at times, like me, been momentarily persuaded to go with the flow of a convincing counter argument.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s All About Who Should</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/09/its-all-about-who-should/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Edgar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m very much an Egalitarian, but for me the issue is really more about giftedness. We can tend to get caught up in who should be behind the pulpit or at the lectern and miss all the other giftedness around us. When I worked at a bank’s call center, helping bankers with computer problems, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m very much an Egalitarian, but for me the issue is really more about giftedness. We can tend to get caught up in who should be behind the pulpit or at the lectern and miss all the other giftedness around us.</p>
<p>When I worked at a bank’s call center, helping bankers with computer problems, I really wanted to be somewhere where I was helping people in need. Now, I’m at a Legal Aid office where I do intake and  reception work. I’m happier about my work because I’m really helping people. But, there was a fundamental flaw in my earlier reasoning &#8211; bankers are people too.</p>
<p>However, I’m more interested in working with the poor because God has given me more empathy for them. So, the work is more related to my giftedenss.</p>
<p>Churches and other Christian organizations and efforts need to be more aware of the variety of gifts God has given the women and men with whom they work and who work for them. If we were, we  would be doing the work God has given us better. When we see people as individuals and realize that they all have gifts, we can help them find those gifts and we can help them find their place of service. If we as individuals look honestly at ourselves, knowing we have gifts and ask for God’s help to find them, we will be happier, more productive, and more godly.</p>
<p>I’m happier talking with the people who are poor and are having problems than with people who are bankers and are having problems. Someone is happier talking to bankers. Someone is better at making those phones work. Someone else is better at organizing and maintaining the structures in which we can use our gifts. It’s all about who should be doing what and why.</p>
<p>The Holy Spirit will lead us if we will follow. What&#8217;s your gift? Who can you help to use their gifts?</p>
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		<title>Can We Do Better?</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/08/can-we-do-better/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A local Bible camp recently announced its schedule for the summer.  “Headlining” the programming for girls camp is a tea party.  You know, frilly hats, dainty gloves.  Extended pinky fingers grasping sweet little tea cups. I have nothing against tea parties per se, but as the centerpiece, the highlight of a girls camp? Is this the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">A local Bible camp recently announced its schedule for the summer.  “Headlining” the programming for girls camp is a tea party.  You know, frilly hats, dainty gloves.  Extended pinky fingers grasping sweet little tea cups.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://cbeofgraysharbor.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dscn0193.jpg" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fcbeofgraysharbor.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F07%2Fdscn0193.jpg' rel="lightbox[1876]",'')"><img src="http://cbeofgraysharbor.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dscn0193.jpg?w=300&amp;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>I have nothing against tea parties per se, but as the centerpiece, the <em>highlight</em> of a girls camp?<em> </em></p>
<p>Is this the best camp leadership can do for innovative, creative  programming – or is it the best they can come up with <em>for girls</em>?   Would the all-male board consider including rock climbing, archery, or white-water rafting as well, or do those and similar “active” sports/endeavors fall outside their gender views?  What about girls who aren’t interested in frilly hats, dainty gloves and extended pinkies?</p>
<p>Programming decisions aside, what kind of thinking related to gender roles and models is in evidence here?  What kinds of values and views do camp leadership intend to impart to young girls about who they are in Christ and what they might accomplish for His kingdom?  What are the chances these girls will hear about Junia or Phoebe or other <em>female </em>members of Paul’s apostolic team and strong Christian females when they’re focused on Early Grey and Emily Post?</p>
<p>Why not focus on these young ladies&#8217; identity in Christ and how they can use their gifts and calling for ministry and service in building the Kingdom of God?  Is this the best we can do for the next generation of Christian women?</p>
<p><em>Author&#8217;s note:</em></p>
<div>
<div>I recently received the following:</div>
<div><span style="font-family: Calibri;">&#8220;We would like to thank all of you who donated hats for the tea party that we had (at) Girl’s Camp. The hats were just lovely and we had one left over. However, this is an event we would like to continue each year,<strong> focusing on the girl campers’ beauty and responsibility as a child of God. </strong>We will need more hats for this coming year as well as more tea cups.&#8221; (Emphasis added.)</span></div>
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		<title>&#8216;Why,&#8217; Indeed?</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/07/why-indeed/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lean and lanky, the thirty-something teacher probed the congregation with a practiced eye as he wound down his presentation.  Ezekiel &#8220;Zeke&#8221; (pseudonym) teaches at a secondary school in another country.  Backed up by a carefully constructed PowerPoint presentation, Ezekiel shared his passion for sensitively pouring truth and grace into the lives of his students, particularly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lean and lanky, the thirty-something teacher probed the congregation with a practiced eye as he wound down his presentation.  Ezekiel &#8220;Zeke&#8221; (pseudonym) teaches at a secondary school in another country.  Backed up by a carefully constructed PowerPoint presentation, Ezekiel shared his passion for sensitively pouring truth and grace into the lives of his students, particularly the girls.  His blue eyes blazed as he asked if a woman in the Community Christian Church (not its real name) congregation would be willing to come forward and pray for the women of his host country.</p>
<p>No one moved.</p>
<p>Thinking his request was muddled or unheard, Zeke repeated it.  He was met with crossed arms, averted eyes, and the creaks of bodies shifting uneasily in the pews.  Silence wrapped the Northwest church like a pea-soup fog.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry brother,&#8221; Elder Darrell strode to the platform and stood next to Ezekiel behind the podium.  Smiling, he clapped Zeke on the shoulder and explained, &#8220;We don&#8217;t allow that sort of thing here.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What thing?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bible is clear when it tells us that women are not to usurp authority over men,&#8221; explained Elder Darrell.  The members of Community Christian believe that includes pulpit ministry, any form of church leadership, and public prayer, particularly prayer that takes place under its roof.  &#8220;Corporate&#8221; prayer meetings are divided along gender lines: women and girls pray in one room, men and boys in another.</p>
<p>Zeke felt like a country fair snow cone on a sweltering August afternoon.  A porcupine silence ensued until &#8220;Brother Franklin&#8221; came forward and prayed for the women of Zeke&#8217;s host country.</p>
<p>&#8220;What did he pray?&#8221; I asked Zeke as he unrolled his story over lunch a few days later.</p>
<p>&#8220;Franklin prayed that God would teach the women of that country to submit to the men.&#8221;</p>
<p>I swallowed.  Hard.  &#8221;Aside from the fact that &#8216;women submitting to men&#8217; is a pseudo-biblical view,&#8221; I probed, &#8220;what else did Darrell say?&#8221;</p>
<p>Zeke sighed as he raked a sun-bronzed hand through his sandy hair.  &#8220;It&#8217;s like Community Christian&#8217;s view of &#8216;biblical womanhood&#8217; is &#8216;clipped wings&#8217; and &#8216;seen but not heard.&#8217;   I don&#8217;t get it,&#8221; Zeke dabbed a French fry into a pool of ketchup.  &#8220;That&#8217;s the kind of thing that goes on in my host county.&#8221;  He cited instances of female subservience, male dominance, and gender discrimination in education, work, worship, and the legal system.</p>
<p>&#8220;Didn&#8217;t the Lord Jesus come to set the captives <em>free</em>?  Is that just spiritual, or is it something more?&#8221; my young friend wondered between bites of his cheeseburger.  &#8220;How come some Christians refuse to see women as full partners in kingdom work, as equal joint-heirs in Jesus?&#8221;  Zeke sipped his lemonade while I listened.  &#8220;What&#8217;s with the top-down totem pole view of gender roles?  How is that different from the country where I work?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t get it,&#8221; Zeke reiterated, shaking his head. &#8220;Why would an &#8216;evangelical, Bible-believing church&#8217; treat women just like some of those who are <em>outside</em> Christendom?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, indeed?</p>
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		<title>Civil War Balls</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/05/civil-war-balls/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sonnet</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m trying to understand the appeal of Civil War Balls or Civil War Dances. They seem as out of place as Remember the Alamo Celebrations or World War II Festivities would be. Why celebrate a time of death and destruction? In my quest for understanding, I traveled to various destinations on the world wide web. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m trying to understand the appeal of Civil War Balls or Civil War Dances. They seem as out of place as Remember the Alamo Celebrations or World War II Festivities would be. Why <em>celebrate</em> a time of death and destruction? In my quest for understanding, I traveled to various destinations on the world wide web. I visited sites dedicated to promoting future, and recently past, Civil War Balls and read firsthand accounts of ball attendees. Here is what I’ve learned.</p>
<p>Many of these Civil War Balls are offered as a “ministry” to homeschooling families, though non-homeschoolers can also be invited. These dances serve as a replacement for high school proms. Rather than holding an equivalent, modern-day prom, hosting an old-fashioned dance is intended to keep clothing modest and to keep manners respectful. Young women are encouraged to wear dresses with hoop skirts, while the young men are encouraged to dress in military uniforms. In keeping with the time period re-enactment, dance cards are used and dances conform to the style of the 1860s.</p>
<p>So I wonder if that is part of the appeal of these balls? Men dressed as soldiers—warriors. Women dressed as belles—beauties. Dance cards setting up males-only in initiating in the choice of dance partners. Period dances requiring men to lead and women to follow. Are these dances seen as an acceptable alternative for families who embrace patriarchy? It seems like modest dress codes could still be enforced and suggestive dancing could be prohibited at a modern-day prom replacement if modesty and manners were the only concern.</p>
<p>Do these Civil War partiers realize that their alternative glamorizes war?</p>
<p>Civil War Balls give the appearance of celebrating a dark time in our nation’s history—the United States no longer united but divided and at war with itself. Partygoers coming to celebrate—not  commemorate—a time where more than half a million people perished in an unnatural disaster. It seems odd to celebrate a <em>war</em> where pain, death and destruction occurred in epidemic proportions.</p>
<p>If the celebration is meant to focus on the ending of legalized slavery, why are some of the men wearing gray, confederate uniforms at these balls? After all, the confederate soldiers were fighting to maintain the right to own slaves in their states. The most disturbing site I visited on my journey advertised a “Belles and Rebels Masquerade Ball” where “smart gray uniforms slipped through swaying, colorful hoop skirts.” They also billed re-enacting the time of the Civil War as “a fun, family activity.” Does anyone else find this trend disturbing?</p>
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		<title>Wages According to Outlook on Gender Roles ?</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2011/04/wages-according-to-outlook-on-gender-roles/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men with egalitarian attitudes about the role of women in society earn significantly less on average than men who hold more traditional views about women&#8217;s place in the world according to a recent study. The Labour Department&#8217;s National Longitudinal Survey of Youth began tracking 12,000 people when they were 14-22 years old for 25 years [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men with egalitarian attitudes about the role of women in society earn significantly less on average than men who hold more traditional views about women&#8217;s place in the world according to a recent study.</p>
<p>The Labour Department&#8217;s National Longitudinal Survey of Youth began tracking 12,000 people when they were 14-22 years old for 25 years in order to observe whether a person&#8217;s view on gender roles affected their income.</p>
<p>It was the first time social scientists produced evidence that large numbers of men might be victims of gender-related income disparities. The differences found were substantial. Men with traditional attitudes about gender roles earned over $11,000 more a year than men with egalitarian views and over $14,000 more a year than women with traditional attitudes. These comparisons were made on men and women working in the same kinds of jobs with the same levels of education and putting in the same number of hours per week.</p>
<p>We are used to thinking about women being disadvantaged in the workplace, but this study shows that men are also treated differently if they do not hold traditional views on the place of women and men.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if anyone reading this has experienced this discrimination either for themselves or their fathers, husbands, brothers or sons.</p>
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		<title>CBE &#8220;Down Under&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/06/cbe-down-under/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We arrived at the Jasper Hotel in downtown Melbourne at midday on Friday and found that already the organising committee were hard at work preparing to receive those who would come early to register for the first CBE conference in Australia. This was the culmination of a year’s hard work by a dedicated group who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We arrived at the Jasper Hotel in downtown Melbourne at midday on Friday and found that already the organising committee were hard at work preparing to receive those who would come early to register for the first CBE conference in Australia. This was the culmination of a year’s hard work by a dedicated group who had prayed for at least 200 people to participate.</p>
<p>By the time the first people came through the doors, there were already over 220 names registered and the steady stream of eager people was so heartening to see as the time for the first meeting approached. A perceptible feeling of anticipation could be felt as folks chatted over cups of tea and coffee, meeting new and old friends and the common question of “Well, what brings you to this conference?” Africa, New Zealand, Asia and America were represented as well as Australians from several states.</p>
<p>The first meeting for the conference included a welcoming address from General Eva Burrows (retired) from the Salvation Army in Melbourne who was so inspiring and exemplified what one dedicated woman could achieve for God. We also were amazed by a dramatised reading of John chapter 4 by Rob Turnbull ………very powerful to hear the story of the “Woman at the Well” read aloud. Graham Cole gave the keynote address on the biblical ideal of “Better Together” which is the theme of the conference.</p>
<p>By the time the first session began today, the crowd had grown and it was to a packed room that Funmi Para-Mallam spoke on “Women and girls in Africa: Issues, challenges and ministry strategies” We heard the history of women in Africa and how the religious culture maintains the oppression of women in both subtle and overt ways. Funmi is actively involved in interventions to bring about gender equality in her country which is also experiencing great persecution and bloodshed.</p>
<p>From the outset, we could see that this conference would be looking at the issue of Biblical Equality from three perspectives….</p>
<p>*The biblical and theological framework for equality</p>
<p>*Gender in the Australian church and culture</p>
<p>*Equality and justice on the global scene</p>
<p>During the day we had opportunity to attend three electives within these three streams and the general consensus was that there was never enough time to fully discuss the issues and share experiences.</p>
<p>The conference dinner  featured the presentation of awards to three students whose papers on biblical equality had been chosen from  a large number of entries. These papers can be read on the Australian CBE website <a href="http://www.cbe.org.au" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbe.org.au','www.cbe.org.au')">www.cbe.org.au</a> The speaker for the evening was Jessie Taylor, a young woman who has a passion for social justice and is particularly concerned with the plight of refugees. Photos taken at some risk in detention camps gave occasion for us to see ‘refugees’ as real families and particularly the pain of parents as they mourn the loss of ability to provide for and protect their children. Again, we were reminded that biblical equality is concerned with far more than the sanctioning of women in the pulpit.</p>
<p>As people shared their last cup of tea or coffee before going their separate ways for the night, there was already conversation about the next CBE conference to be held in Australia &#8211; such was the enthusiasm. We are only half-way through this experience as it is a long weekend here in the state of Victoria so we’ll write another report on Monday afternoon after several more workshops and challenging keynote speakers.</p>
<p>In this Australian conference there has been a strong emphasis on justice issues both locally and on the world scene. The organisers of this weekend, were determined that the subject matter would be far broader than just the ordination of women. The perception is often expressed that because there are now many ordained women in some denominations, the whole gender equality issue is ‘done and dusted’ Through the variety of group discussions, this aim was certainly achieved. Topics ranged from what it means to be a young woman in Australian church culture to how we can help women to feed their families in Afghanistan; from how churches welcome people with disabilities  to helping women who are suffering abuse in Christian homes.</p>
<p>Overload was an oft-repeated word as delegates moved through three workshops and at least one plenary session each day. The morning and afternoon tea times went all too quickly and conversations had to hang in the air while we rushed off to the next session.  With so much information and interaction, surely the cause for biblical equality will benefit enormously and each participant will take away a lot of literature and new information to encourage them to ‘not grow weary in well-doing’</p>
<p>There are recordings available for most of the conference sessions and these can be ordered through the Australian website mentioned earlier. Kevin Giles wrote a study book for release over this weekend and every delegate received a free copy of &#8220;Better Together&#8221; &#8211; they sell for $14.95 AUS and can also be ordered from the website. Attendees from Victoria were encouraged to join the CBE chapter and folks from other states and New Zealand are now considering beginning chapters among their  friends and colleagues.</p>
<p>Our final session  was one of the highlights as Cheryl Catford spoke on &#8220;Riding the Third Wave&#8221; Biblical Equality in the Twenty-First Century&#8221;.</p>
<p>After giving an excellent summary of the first and second waves of feminism, we were made aware of what is typical of a young woman&#8217;s expectation now. This pointed up how we as Christians have been so influenced by the culture around us through magazines, TV and the media and trying to assimilate this with biblical equality has caused a lack of definition and also given rise to a resurgence of more &#8216;conservative&#8217; trends in church life.</p>
<p>We were reminded that it is biblical values and principles which should be guiding our lives and not our responses to the waves of change and cultural shifts, even within the church scene. The whole message was one of hope and encouragement to &#8216;get on our boards&#8217; and be in the action, believing that God is in control and that his Holy Spirit within us will empower us to face the challenge of the coming waves, whatever form they may take. Each one of us will take from the conference a personal challenge to be more proactive in a Christ-like manner and to watch God at work.</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading other comments from those who attended and their sharing of how they were impacted by the whole event. Even if there are some questions still unanswered, please feel free to express them and perhaps we can listen to one another and grow together in understanding.</p>
<p>PS:  Mimi said to say that the food was great too!!</p>
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