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		<title>The Full Meaning</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/03/the-full-meaning/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baptism in Christ: Giving Words Their Full Meaning
Recently a friend of mine received a very distinguished award from her denomination for her long-term leadership in promoting the “maximum baptismal role of women in the Church.” As I pondered our baptismal role, I remembered that many baptismal fonts from the early church had Galatians 3:26-28 inscribed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baptism in Christ: Giving Words Their Full Meaning</p>
<p>Recently a friend of mine received a very distinguished award from her denomination for her long-term leadership in promoting the “maximum baptismal role of women in the Church.” As I pondered our baptismal role, I remembered that many baptismal fonts from the early church had Galatians 3:26-28 inscribed on them. Why? Baptism, rather than circumcision, became the public expression of our covenantal relationship with God, attained through our union with Christ. Just as Christ rose victoriously over sin, we too rise out of the waters of baptism, symbolizing our rising victorious with Christ over sin. United to Christ in baptism, God does not look upon our sins, but sees that we are clothed in Christ, a reality that Paul summarizes in Galatians 3:27-29: “You are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”</p>
<p>To be united to Christ completely redefines our identity and status with respect to God. It also redefines our relationship to one another. In the same way Christ established satisfaction or peace between sinners and God, so too Christ builds peace between the members of his body—the Church. Because of this, theologians suggest that our christology (what we understand about Christ and our salvation in him) directs our ecclesiology (what we understand about the Church). Just as there is an intimacy or a union between Christ and each redeemed soul, there is also unity or mutuality between those who are redeemed by Christ. To be in Christ is never simply a statement solely about one’s redemptive status. For our redemption also directly influences our status in relationship to one another, as members of Christ’s body.</p>
<p>Paul boldly suggests in Galatians 3 that Jews and Greeks, slaves and free, males and females are all one in Christ. He wrote these words to a world in which nearly half of the population were slaves. How radical Galatians 3:28 must have sounded to first century ears! How radical our baptism remains today! Be clear about this! Our relationship with Jesus changes everything! That is the true meaning of baptism. Our significance and influence is not defined by our earthly parents but through our relationship to God from whom we receive our ultimate inheritance. And our sisters and brothers receive the same inheritance and gifts from God’s Spirit. These gifts never come in pink or blue, yellow, black, or white. Through the power of the Cross, expressed in Christian baptism, we no longer ascribe value, dignity, and worth according to social status, ethnicity, gender, or class. Hallelujah.</p>
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		<title>All Truth is God&#8217;s Truth</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.&#8221; (John 4:23, TNIV)
Very often the questions asked by those struggling with the gender issue are quite profound. For example, after leading a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.&#8221; (John 4:23, TNIV)</p>
<p>Very often the questions asked by those struggling with the gender issue are quite profound. For example, after leading a workshop at the last Urbana Missions Conference, a graduate student from Harvard told me, &#8220;If the Bible really teaches that all women must be submissive to males, and men will be the final arbiters of women, then God is basically saying women are inferior to men. And I cannot be party to such an system that places women under the permanent jurisdiction of a male, not because of a man’s character, or intellect, or walk with God, but simply because he is male. This seems unjust and also unreasonable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Her question was rooted in a desire to know truth. How can you know truth, or theology for that matter, apart from reason and logic? Logic is foundational to theology, and thus logic is essential to understanding the gender debate. Women today are told by secular culture that they are equal to men—a moral principle. Therefore, in culture women can pursue any task a man pursues—a functional consequence of a moral principle—equality. But, when women are told that God created them equal to men—a moral principle of equality, but that they must be submissive to men—a functional consequence of inequality, that does not follow the moral principle. Women and men recognize in their gut, and in their minds, that this does not make sense. It is illogical. And, though they love God and cherish their relationship to Jesus, the call for women&#8217;s submission smacks not only of illogic, it also seems unjust. Because of this, it erodes trust in God and the church.</p>
<p>Moral principles have logical consequences—to erode women’s confidence in God’s goodness is a salvation issue. This may explain the significant growth in pagan movements—where logic related to gender is intact. For a thorough examination of this issue, see Wicca’s Charm: Understanding the Spiritual Hunger Behind the Rise of Modern Witchcraft and Pagan Spirituality, by Catherine Sanders. Friends, let us engage principles of logic and common sense, being confident that God is the author of all truth! Scripture and logic tell us that women and men are equally created in God’s image and share equal responsibility for using their gifts in service to Christ.</p>
<p>May we, as Christian men and women engage our minds fully in loving and serving Jesus! Hallelujah!</p>
<p>Mimi Haddad</p>
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		<title>A Difficult Model</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/02/a-difficult-model/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“In your relationships with one another, have the same attitude of mind Christ Jesus had: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In your relationships with one another, have the same attitude of mind Christ Jesus had: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a human being, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death–-even death on a cross!” (Philippians 2:5-8, TNIV)</p>
<p>Lately I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about what empowerment for Christian service in the church and world means in light of the model Christ has provided us with. Suffice it to say, it’s a challenge. There is nothing assertive or upwardly mobile about God putting on flesh and serving, then dying on a cross. It spells difficult words for someone who wants to think of “equality” as empowering, and yet it remains the model before us.</p>
<p>Immediately preceding the glimpse of worship contained in chapter 2 of Philippians, Paul exhorts those at Philippi to “in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.” (3-4). In the ordering of their (and our) relationships and our proclamation of the Gospel we are somehow to emulate this model of selflessness, of obedience, and of humility. It strikes me as odd, then, that in considering who can and cannot serve within the church and world, the Christian community quickly turns to the language of power.</p>
<p>Stripped of notions of power and held to the model of Christ, the question of who can and cannot serve is turned on its head. The question of a woman’s being permitted to preach or teach is no longer a question of her right or power to do so, it is a question of her being permitted to serve–-really serve–-and ultimately emulate the model of Christ. Similarly, empowerment becomes an exhortation to one another (regardless of gender) to follow Christ in this downwardly mobile fashion.</p>
<p>To serve within the Christian community is to model Christ. It is to “put on flesh” (that is, imitate Christ’s downward movement), assume the nature of a servant, and become obedient–-to death. And, if anything, it is a setting aside of power, a deliberate and humble choice to be selfless and obedient. It is nothing that any of us would aspire towards if not called by God and exhorted by one another. It is not easy, but then again, when is following Christ easy?</p>
<p>As we continue to imitate Christ, may we find all of our notions of what it means to both serve and “empower” others to do so, challenged.</p>
<p>Will Rettig (previous administrator for the Scroll)</p>
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		<title>Servant Leadership ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Servant Leadership or Christian Service?
&#8220;Jesus called them together and said, &#8216;You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Servant Leadership or Christian Service?</p>
<p>&#8220;Jesus called them together and said, &#8216;You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
(Matthew 20:25-28, TNIV)</p>
<p>How many of us feel uneasy when we are told that men, rather than women, are called to be &#8220;servant leaders?&#8221; Perhaps we are confused by this notion—that men alone are to be &#8220;servant-leaders&#8221;—because it contains an important truth though it carries that truth only part of the way. What do I mean? </p>
<p>Scripture speaks of the Christian life, for both males and females, as one of service. Jesus said that unlike the Gentiles who exercised authority over others, among his followers those who wanted to be first must become like slaves, just as Christ came not to be served, but to serve. There is no mention of gender in this important passage in Matthew 20:25-28, nor is there any mention of authority.</p>
<p>Similarly, Paul also said that he became a slave to everyone for the sake of the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:19). Paul became a slave not because he was male but because he was being renewed in the image of Christ. The gospel calls that all Christians take up their cross and follow Jesus, not because of their gender, but because of their desire to be followers of Jesus.</p>
<p>Celebrating the servant-leadership of all God&#8217;s people!</p>
<p>Mimi Haddad, President of CBE</p>
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		<title>Thank you, but what else?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The year 1994 witnessed the debut of a little family film known as The Swan Princess, one of several attempts by non-Disney enterprises to grab a slice of Disney&#8217;s highly successful fairy tale princesses franchise. My parents, who bought just about every movie that came out on video, quickly added it to our VHS collection [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The year 1994 witnessed the debut of a little family film known as The Swan Princess, one of several attempts by non-Disney enterprises to grab a slice of Disney&#8217;s highly successful fairy tale princesses franchise. My parents, who bought just about every movie that came out on video, quickly added it to our VHS collection once it had finished its theatrical run, and upon viewing it I found it to be a mediocre offering. Not an instant classic like other animated films, but certainly not hateable in its badness.<br />
One scene from the movie did stick in my mind though. You&#8217;ll have to familiarize yourself with the film&#8217;s plot if you want more details, but in the beginning, Prince Derek makes an awkward and sudden proposal to Princess Odette based solely on her good looks. “You&#8217;re everything I ever wanted. You&#8217;re beautiful!” Derek gushes. “Thank you,” replies Odette, “but what else?” As our ham-fisted protagonist, Derek is obviously confused by this inquiry and after hemming and hawing for a moment, blurts out, “What else is there?”<br />
Ah, silly Prince Derek. We of this enlightened post-modern feminist era know so much better than to limit our praises of women to their beauty.<br />
Or do we?<br />
A good friend of mine told me that he thought about this recently as he watched a few very different shows where males and females were introduced. “I noticed that the women were invariably introduced with a reference to their beauty,” my friend said, “Which makes perfect sense when introducing a woman whose job is at least largely, if not entirely, dependent on being physically attractive—model, newscaster, emcee, actress—but some of the women I saw introduced as &#8216;the beautiful/lovely [name]&#8216; were athletes, politicians, or authors.”<br />
I&#8217;m sorry to say, I&#8217;m not sure that the Church is doing much better on this matter. In my eighteen years as a Christian, I can&#8217;t tell you how often I&#8217;ve heard male pastors, speakers and missionaries reference their “beautiful/lovely/gorgeous” wives, often with nary a word as to what else it is that they love about their wives. I currently attend a fairly conservative evangelical seminary where my classes sometimes have a male-female ratio of 4:1, and it&#8217;s not uncommon for class members to introduce themselves at the start of the semester with some brief words about their families. In this setting, too, I continue to hear regular talk of how pretty the wives are. I don&#8217;t blame my peers, as my guess is that they don&#8217;t even realize they&#8217;re doing it. Romantic paternalism seems deeply embedded within evangelical culture.<br />
As a married female student whose husband is not enrolled in seminary, I&#8217;ve struggled with how to introduce my own family when my turn comes around. I could introduce him as “my handsome husband,” but I&#8217;m not sure implementing my own brand of romantic maternalism really solves the problem. I could avoid descriptors, but that sounds dull. I could leave out mention of him altogether, but I worry that those who know I am married will think I&#8217;m choosing not to discuss my marriage for the wrong reasons. So I&#8217;ve taken to mentioning his other qualities: my selfless husband, my courageous husband, my creative and talented husband. He certainly likes it much better when I brag about him for those reasons rather than for his smokin&#8217; good looks.<br />
Which isn&#8217;t to say, men, that you can&#8217;t praise your wife&#8217;s good looks to others from time to time. I assume that good looks were on the list of reasons why you were attracted to her in the first place, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. I think it&#8217;s nice to get compliments on my own appearance from time to time, and I enjoy giving them almost as much as getting them.<br />
I simply echo the question that Odette asked above: “Thank you, but what else?”<br />
Proverbs 31:10-31 contains a rather famous list of desirable qualities in a godly wife. The only thing that list has to say about good looks?<br />
“Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting, but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.” (Proverbs 31:30, TNIV)<br />
Amen to that.</p>
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		<title>No Condemnation</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/01/no-condemnation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sonnet</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like a swimmer gripped by an undertow, the following words in the Bible when taken out of context and misinterpreted can pull women down spiritually.
“Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says… it is disgraceful for a women to speak in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a swimmer gripped by an undertow, the following words in the Bible when taken out of context and misinterpreted can pull women down spiritually.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says… it is disgraceful for a women to speak in the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:34, 35b TNIV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Feel the strong undercurrents “disgraceful” carries. To be disgraced is to have brought shame upon one’s self and to have lost favor and respect. So when the above verses are isolated, they appear to tell <em>all</em> women that if they do not silence their voices and become mute within the church, then they will be viewed with shame and dishonor. Words from their mouths are unwelcome.</p>
<p>These verses seem to denounce women believers and condemn them to a permanently lower spiritual level than men. Taken at face value, these words contradict the equality and mutuality between male and female expressed in Galatians 3:28. Spiritual maturity becomes irrelevant where gender is concerned. Gender restrictions overrule and prohibit women from exercising certain spiritual gifts. Women are still viewed as being spiritually inferior and under a form of condemnation because God created them <em>female</em> instead of male. Ultimately, these isolated verses even infer that God created women’s voices to be contemptible and unredeemable.</p>
<p>The misuse of these verses to restrict women also attempts to keep them under the law. No wonder women can feel dragged down and stifled. So how do these detached verses make sense within the greater context of scripture? Since no written law is found anywhere in the Old Testament that fits the description in verse 34, Paul seems to be referring to the misogynistic <em>oral </em>law of the Judaizers. Rather than agreeing with this oral law, many believe that Paul was offering a rebuttal in the verses immediately following after it.</p>
<blockquote><p>“(What!) did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If any think they are prophets or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord&#8217;s command. Those who ignore this will themselves be ignored. Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.” (1 Corinthians 14:36-40 TNIV)</p></blockquote>
<p>In commenting on this section of scripture, Katharine Bushnell wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Paul’s contention is, that since the spirit of prophecy, which is &#8220;the word of God,&#8221; did not, as its very terms imply, come forth from anyone but God, to attempt to control prophecy by restrictions as to who may utter it, means a dictating to God as to what instruments He may employ.” <a href="http://blog.cbeinternational.org/wp-admin/post-new.php#_ftn1">[1]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>If you are a woman who has felt weighted down and condemned by Bible verses misused to entangle you and to keep you under the law, grab hold of the following life preserving words:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.” (Romans 8:1, 2 TNIV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Christian women have also been released from all guilt and shame through their Savior and Redeemer. They are no longer under any condemnation. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit was poured out on <em>both</em> sexes. Women filled with the Holy Spirit were not silent but spoke out the words given to them by God.</p>
<p>If you would like to read a more in-depth explanation on “Shall Women Keep Silence?” click on the following link to an online copy of Katharine Bushnell’s book <em>God’s Word to Women</em> (first published in 1921) and read lessons 25 through 28.  <a href="http://www.godswordtowomen.org/gwtw.htm">http://www.godswordtowomen.org/gwtw.htm</a></p>
<p>If anyone would like to purchase a copy of Katharine Bushnells&#8217; book, please go to the CBE online bookstore<br />
<a href="http://www.equalitydepot.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=5592"> http://www.equalitydepot.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=5592</a></p>
<hr size="1" /><a href="http://blog.cbeinternational.org/wp-admin/post-new.php#_ftnref1">[1]</a> Katharine Bushnell, <em>God’s Word to Women</em> (Minneapolis, Christians for Biblical Equality, 2003) p. 94.  “As a scholar of Hebrew and Greek, she studies the passages in their original languages and in their historical context, discovering insights sometimes obscured by Bible translators.” (quote from back cover of book)</p>
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		<title>All’s Not Fair In &#8220;Love and War&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blog.cbeinternational.org/2010/01/all%e2%80%99s-not-fair-in-love-and-war/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A book review by Anna and Ryan Snyder
This past fall, when we first learned John and Stasi Eldredge had written Love and War, a book on marriage, our initial reaction was negative, to say the least. Don’t get us wrong, we find the Eldredges’ desire to help people improve their marriages admirable. But having just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book review by Anna and Ryan Snyder</p>
<p>This past fall, when we first learned John and Stasi Eldredge had written <em>Love and War</em>, a book on marriage, our initial reaction was negative, to say the least. Don’t get us wrong, we find the Eldredges’ desire to help people improve their marriages admirable. But having just finished re-reading large portions of <em>Wild at Heart</em> and <em>Captivating</em>, their books on men and women, respectively, we instinctively worried about the advice they would give. The Eldredges often claim God created men and women as almost complete opposites, and as a couple firmly committed to the idea that women and men have more similarities in their humanity than they do differences in their gender, we weren’t clamoring to see this type of approach applied to marriage.</p>
<p>The book, however, exceeded our expectations. At times, we actually found ourselves wanting to like it. Unfortunately, at its conclusion, the negatives still outweighed the positives.</p>
<p>Focusing largely on their own experiences, the Eldredges begin by asserting marriage is “fabulously hard” (p. 13). In fact, given that (1) men and women are complete opposites, (2) we are all broken people, and (3) Satan hates marriage, they say it is a “miracle of the first order” that any marriage makes it all (p. 14). However, despite these difficulties, marriage plays a crucial role in God’s story. We live in a world at war, they write, and God gives us marriage to provide us with companionship, and as a picture of his love. Thus, although marriage is excruciatingly hard, God is on our side.</p>
<p>With all this in mind the Eldredges proceed to discuss a number of important, marriage-related issues. From communication, to sex, to having a shared mission in one’s marriage, they offer input and advice, much of it helpful. For example, they explain how people’s brokenness contributes to problems with their spouse, and they encourage people to embrace the resulting conflict as a way of seeking transformation. Additionally, their discussion of the need for both spouses to seek fulfillment in Christ, rather than each other, was commendable. Much of their advice even borders on being pro-egalitarian; they advise a process of mutual decision-making and encourage couples to exercise authority together in matters of spiritual warfare.</p>
<p>However, despite its good points, we reluctantly found ourselves increasingly frustrated with the authors. Their extreme negativity about marriage was exhausting; a few of the more choice examples include comparing the exchanging of wedding vows to the special forces “vowing their lives to one another as they embark on a perilous mission in dark lands, the outcome of which remains quite uncertain,” (p. 4), and claiming “if you cannot admit the disappointment of your marriage, you have made an idol out of it,” (p. 67). They also resort to stereotypes, often attributing marital difficulties to irreconcilable differences between the genders. Sadly, by persuading men and women they are complete opposites and that marriage is almost impossible, they may well convince them their marriage is irreparable, the exact problem the authors are trying to correct.</p>
<p>The authors also treat Scripture carelessly, taking it out of context and providing incomplete quotations, without indicating they have done so. They use pop culture even more heavily than they use the Bible, reporting that human-made movies and stories prove how God intended the world to be. Also, throughout the book the Eldredges often muffle their own meaning with indirect, unstructured, and hard to follow writing. They are overly repetitive both with unclear and weakly constructed analogies and by restating nearly all of <em>Wild at Heart</em> and <em>Captivating</em>.</p>
<p>When we finished with the book, we were left wondering why our marriage is not as hard as the authors say it should be. We have never contemplated divorce, wondered whether we made a mistake in getting married, or threw our hands up in resignation to the fact that marriage is just so hard. While it is true we have only been married for roughly two years, according to the authors, we should have found ourselves wildly disappointed with our marriage by now, or even contemplating divorce, as they were at this point. Yet, while marriage is sometimes difficult, the overwhelming majority of the time we have found it to be better than we ever imagined.</p>
<p>So why do the authors insist marriage is so difficult? Has this been true of your marriage…or are we abnormal in experiencing a joyful and fulfilling marriage? (We doubt the latter is the case.) Why is everyone – Christians included – so down on marriage? Is this a self-fulfilling prophecy (the old ball and chain, etc.)? What causes divorce rates to hover at 50% both within the church and outside it? What are we missing?</p>
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		<title>The Messengers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubert Edgar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.<br />
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.<br />
Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.”<br />
Mark 16:1-14 (TNIV)</p>
<p>When I read this recently in my devotional time, I was struck by something I hadn’t noticed before and would like to pass it on to you.</p>
<p>Jesus told off the Eleven for two reasons. First was their lack of faith. Second was because they did not believe His messengers. Jesus sent women to confirm what He had told the Eleven would happen and they would not believe them. Was this because they were women? I’d suggest so. Otherwise it would just have been their lack of faith.</p>
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		<title>Sounds familiar ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This account is the testimony of Liz Beyer, the CBE bookshop co-ordinator  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This account is the testimony of Liz Beyer, the CBE bookshop co-ordinator  </p>
<p>My life was a series of contradictions before I confronted the issue of biblical equality. Growing up, my family went to a restrictive church, but my parents were very egalitarian. They encouraged me to do whatever I wanted to do. From the outset, the church sent one message, my personal life sent another.</p>
<p>Life turned around when I became a Christian. My relationship with Jesus was joyful and full of possibilities, but the church I was attending kept putting restrictions on how I could express that. I wanted to study Scripture and teach; to tell everybody what God had done in my life! But once I started going to church again, I encountered walls &#8211; &#8216;you can&#8217;t&#8217;  &#8216;there&#8217;s no place&#8217;  or people would literally ignore me when I spoke!</p>
<p>During this time I got married and struggled with the issue of submission, which in this case meant doing what others told me to do. <strong>I found that I was trying to live under multiple masters. Jesus said that a person can only have one master &#8211; God.</strong> Yet the voice that was speaking in my heart was the one I listened to the least! I found that I was walking through a maze trying to figure out what messages I should obey.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t have kids for 6 years, which made me an outsider- the subtle message in my church was that to be &#8217;spiritual&#8217; was to have many children. I wanted to go to medical school but didn&#8217;t go because of the messages I received about my role as a woman. If I obeyed others &#8216;in authority over me&#8217; I was told I would also be obeying God.</p>
<p><strong>25 years later, I was severely depressed.</strong> I saw no future in the church, I had foregone my chances at education, my marriage was in shambles and there seemed to be nothing worth living for except my kids &#8211; all because I had an incorrect understanding of biblical submission. The ramifications of the church&#8217;s teachings in my life were misleading and very damaging. I finally realised that I needed to know just who I was in God. I literally had nothing left to lose.  My sister put me in touch with CBE and I found the materials I desperately needed! I began to read Katharine C. Bushnell&#8217;s  &#8220;God&#8217;s Word to Women&#8221; and it was like a salvation experience all over again.<strong> I went from death to life, when I learned what the Bible really says!</strong>  CBE literally saved my life!</p>
<p>Before I was connected to CBE, I had lost everything that had any meaning, including my dignity as a human being. <strong>To all the authors who spent their time and money, along with those who have endured the costs to health, family and work to seek the truth, I want to say thank you! You are a prophetic voice to the world.</strong> I believe there will be many people in heaven who will line up to shake your hand, give you a hug and tell you how your writing changed their lives. Most importantly, our Lord will say &#8220;Well done, good and faithful servant. Enter in to the joy of your master!&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be good to hear others&#8217; stories of how they came to see things differently and how it changed their lives. Every person is unique and yet there are similarities  in the story &#8211; it sounds familiar!</p>
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